Avoid: Indreamstudio.com

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by Ash, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hello,
    I have just had a terrible experience with this company/website and i am warning everyone here just in case they come to you. Avoid them at all costs. Here is what happened:

    First of all i made a post on sitepoint asking for one of my websites to be designed and coded. A company contacted me saying they could do all of this, including a custom cms, for around $250 and i will not need to pay them anything until the website is finished. They done the design and a bit of the CMS but then had problems coding the design. They couldn't finish the job so they referred me to another website INDREAMSTUDIO.COM (who said they would definitely be able to do all of this) for $300. I then agreed.

    After some weeks they came up with a new design (since the one the other company did wasn't that good to begin with). They said they now will need a $200 deposit to continue work on the deposit. So i sent them the $200 via PayPal. After a very long time they finally contacted me saying they had a problem coding the website (mainly in the CMS side of things) and could not figure out how to resolve this issue. Since they failed to deliver the work i paid them to do i of course asked for a refund. They refused to give me any sort of refund at all and replied with a lame excuse saying 'we tried'. I was then blocked from msn and they avoided all contact from me.

    Finally yesterday with still no website and with $200 gone i e-mailed them asking for a refund or i will post my experience with them on forums and take this case to court. They still refused to provide me with any kind of refund saying they will be happy to see me in court (thinking of course it will not happen because they know i live in the UK and they live in the USA - therefore it will be a lot of hassle for me to bring this case to justice).

    So overall avoid them at all costs. The person i was talking to is called Ashton. His e-mail/msn is: and his website is: INDREAMSTUDIO.COM

    If any one has any ideas what i should do next in order to get my money back or where i legally stand in this issue please let me know.

    Thanks.
    Ash
     
    Ash, Oct 19, 2006 IP
  2. DidierE

    DidierE Well-Known Member

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    #2
    Well, you always get what you pay...
    And only amateurs will code a decent CMS for a few 100 bucks ;)

    If you really want a good CMS coded from scratch, be prepared to pay anywhere between $1000-$5000

    Didier
     
    DidierE, Oct 19, 2006 IP
  3. InDreamStudio

    InDreamStudio Peon

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    Dear Ash

    I apologise your recent experience was not pleasurable for you, all though please allow me to tell my side of the story..

    Ash came to me asking for a CMS(usually we charge $200+) and a full designed site. We told the client it would take 1-2 weeks.. we finished the cms+design and client was very happy.. however 2 days later he sent me a Email regarding he wanted 2 newfeatures added to the cms now in order to add more features to a all ready coded CMS it would require a brand new cms.. we told Ash that we can not do that as it was not stated in original deal and then he demanded a refund. now as a business owner we deal with clients such as this time to time however it is not fair that we made Ash a nice site +cms and then asks us to remake it because he wants more added to it.. I have the CMS+site to prove my innocents.. and ASH please do not spread false claims about me or my company as this is not fair to me since I worked very hard to please you.

    If anyone has any questions feel free to contact me regarding this matter, and if your looking for web-design or coding please contact me aswell.
     
    InDreamStudio, Oct 19, 2006 IP
  4. Ash

    Ash Peon

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    InDreamStudio, this is not true. Please do not lie. Let me correct you:

    This is correct and you failed to deliver the website in 1-2 weeks. You were continually delaying it. I still did not get that annoyed because as long as I recieved the finished product in the end i said ill be satisfied. But you did not deliver the finished product in the end after weeks of delaying it.

    You finished the design but you did not finish the CMS. You even told me you had a problem and could not figure out how to fix it so therefore the CMS did not work. The website is worthless to me if the CMS does not actually work.

    No. I asked for extra features and you said you could not do it without making a new CMS from scratch. I said, "ok that is fine. Just fix the current CMS and ill be happy". Since you could not fix the old CMS or create a new one i then of course asked for a refund.

    No you don't. If you truly do have a working site with the CMS then please by all means upload it so that me and everyone else can see you are innocent. Otherwise you clearly are guilty.

    EDIT:
    But just to let everyone know we have been discussing this further on MSN. InDreamStuidios have agreed to let me keep the PSD design and refund me the $100 if i close the PayPal dispute. I have closed the PayPal dispute and i am now awaiting payment (refund) of the $100. I will let everyone know how i get on and if i do receive the payment or not.
     
    Ash, Oct 19, 2006 IP
  5. LadyHoldem

    LadyHoldem Well-Known Member

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    Why did you close the dispute before you got the refund?
     
    LadyHoldem, Oct 20, 2006 IP
  6. Ash

    Ash Peon

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    Because he said that he could not send money because his account had been put on hold as a result of the dispute...
     
    Ash, Oct 20, 2006 IP
  7. Ash

    Ash Peon

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    Well i am still waiting for my refund just to keep everyone updated... don't know if he will pay it or not. He keeps telling me to wait a little longer....
     
    Ash, Nov 30, 2006 IP
  8. Essential-Design

    Essential-Design Peon

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    #8
    my account wasnt frozen when some ledged a dispute, all that happens is the money in question is seized and held by paypal till the dispute is solved, however the seller has control on weather to provide full refud, or partial refund while the dispute is on going.

    Have none of you to got any prove to back your side up? emails? msn convos?

    Ash to me it seems like he is not going to refund you and just stalling time, you shouldn't of closed the dispute and waited its course. Im not 100% sure but i dont think you can file another dispute over the same transaction so you have no lost any power you had, apart from draggin his name thro the mud.
     
    Essential-Design, Nov 30, 2006 IP
  9. mihai11

    mihai11 Peon

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    If you don't get at least minimal information before you make a decision then you deserve your fate. PayPal only blocks the amount in dispute, not the whole account. Are you a child ? How can you believe such stupid affirmations ?

    A man with good intentions will never lie / attempt to manipulate in the middle of a dispute. It is very unlikely that he is going to give your money back.
     
    mihai11, Dec 1, 2006 IP
  10. mihai11

    mihai11 Peon

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    No. You don't need to pay 1000USD for a good CMS. A developer from Eastern Europe will gladly do it for 500USD. You seem to forget that not everybody is making the same money in all parts of the world.

    Of course, it matters with whom are you doing business. You can pay 2000USD and still get robbed.
     
    mihai11, Dec 1, 2006 IP
  11. Ash

    Ash Peon

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    You live you learn.

    If the dispute was also still open and PayPal looked into it i still probably wouldn't have got my money back because PayPal rarely go on your side when your dealing with 'virtual goods'.
     
    Ash, Dec 1, 2006 IP
  12. mihai11

    mihai11 Peon

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    Anyway, I am sorry for what happened to you. Let us know if you found a way to get your money back.
     
    mihai11, Dec 1, 2006 IP
  13. SS|Brad

    SS|Brad Member

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    IndreamStudio is a complete fraud. The owner is about seventeen. As you can see in his speech he is not very well read, and I can guarantee half of what he said was a lie.

    I was frauded for $300 by him. He designed me a site that was completely copied from another site. When I asked for a refund once I saw he was a joke, he denied me one. Of course as usual paypal did not help me out. He is by far one of the worst liars I have encountered. He will lie about everything. He is a typical example of an internet fraudster.

    After i was frauded, I bought the site http://indreamstudio.net/ and just months later he shutdown his site http://indreamstudio.com/ Hopefully this prevented others from being frauded

    Unfortunately people like this will most likely go on to start a new fraudulent business. However it will come back around to haunt him. He likes to try and confront issues with lies, like he has done with ASH. I made a similar post about him months ago, and he responded with blatant lies, trying to turn people against me rather then him. I have his name and info listed somewhere, and will post it when I find it.

    Anyways, stay away from this child, and stay away from unestablished companies. You are much better off paying more money for quality.
     
    SS|Brad, Dec 21, 2006 IP
  14. Ash

    Ash Peon

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    They are just a terrible 'company'. I shouldn't even call them a company, its just some 17 year old kid going around scamming everyone. I'm sorry to hear about the money you lost too. I just hate people like them so much.

    Don't know whether this makes a difference or not; but here's some of the contact info that i found by doing a whois search on his domain (months ago):

    Administrative Contact:
    Bergeron, Gisele
    LakeShore
    8 morrton st
    Concord, New Hampshire 03301

    United States

    Phone: 19783732024
    Mobile: 1978-373-2351

    (I have no idea if the above numbers work since i live in the UK and i have not tried them.)

    Thanks.

    I do completely agree that you should always go with a well established company and above all be careful with who you do business with.
     
    Ash, Dec 21, 2006 IP