Is Homosexuality a Pathology?

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  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Breeze, your back on the garden again. Go back and read the post. He argues that it cant be a sickness because they are born that way.
     
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    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #22
    Right Wingers and republicans :rolleyes: ;)
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #23
    Can i ask if you practise being stupid, or does being a dumbass come natural to you? I have said it once and i will say it again:

    Homosexual men do not have sex with women.

    Now, what part of that equation can you not get though your thick skull?

    I know you would love to blame gay guys, or women (muslim men have to blame any subhuman gays or women )for giving Straight men (your group) HIV but its not either, its drug users that speard it, Gay males are fully aware of it and use condoms. Drug users do not use condoms and pass it on via both infected needles and sex. to both males and females.
     
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    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Well, here is one statistic :

    LINK


    Those are pathologic results, does it point to a pathologic condition ? Here is what pathologic means : "Relating to or caused by disease." LINK

    And I thought it was just five times more likely...:eek:
     
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  5. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #25
    As this is not a USA only disease, lets take the worldwide picture shall we?

    “This epidemic unfortunately remains an epidemic of women.”Michel Sidibé, Executive Director of UNAIDS1 << see the UN say its worse for women

    source

    Now so as you dont slip up like dumbass above, just over 50% of people infected are women, as GAY/HOMOSEXUAL men do not sleep with women. most of the rest infected are Hetrosexual men worldwide
    or are you going to say something like dumbass above and suggest that women sleep with homosexuals?

    At the end of 2009 it was estimated that out of the 33.3 million adults worldwide living with HIV and AIDS, slightly more than half are women.2 The AIDS epidemic has had a unique impact on women, which has been exacerbated by their role within society and their biological vulnerability to HIV infection.

    Generally women are at a greater risk of heterosexual transmission of HIV. Biologically women are twice more likely to become infected with HIV through unprotected heterosexual intercourse than men. In many countries women are less likely to be able to negotiate condom use and are more likely to be subjected to non-consensual sex.3 4

    Additionally, millions of women have been indirectly affected by the HIV and AIDS epidemic. Women’s childbearing role means that they have to contend with issues such as mother-to-child transmission of HIV. The responsibility of caring for AIDS patients and orphans is also an issue that has a greater effect on women.

    There are a number of things that can be done in order to reduce the burden of the epidemic among women. These include promoting and protecting women's human rights, increasing education and awareness among women and encouraging the development of new preventative technologies such as post-exposure prophylaxis and microbicides.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #26
    ;) Your'e a very excitable lad, aren't you. Lets examine your claim which, like the spread of aids through intravenous drug use(a point I've made myself), is tangential to the topic. Exhibit one. Bushranger. Gay male, has kids. Now which are you claiming, he isn't gay, or he never had sex with a woman? Exhibit two. Use of intravenous drugs is a pathology of its own.

    Anyway, we digress. The thrust of my argument wasn't about HIV being the gay disease, but rather its existence as a high risk of premature demise for those born as homosexuals.


    Do you feel all the color helps you get your point across? If so, keep it up :). It makes for interesting reading.
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #27
    male having sex with female = hetrosexual
    male having sex with male = homosexual
    male having sex with male and female, no matter how far apart in years is bisexual he might now only practice homosexual sex, but he is still bisexual.

    i am not a Lad either
    I call stupid when i see stupid.
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Because you said so?

    I suspect most homosexuals live a hetro life prior to coming out, at which point there is a period of back and forth which you may term as bi-sexuality. Anyway, as I said, tangential to the topic.

    You communicate like one. Is that sexist of me?
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #29
    no not because i say so, but you fail to understand what homosexuality is. its like you insisting someone is left handed because he used his left hand to take a glove off his right hand.

    but just to make it clear, I currently work for a human rights organization, and i was also a sexual health advisor for 15 years
    no its not sexist, its ignorance on your part.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #30
    I just had this vision of you showing up on my doorstep saying, "I'm here to help you!"

    /shudder :)
     
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    #31
    homosexuality is just one more of the vast range of aspects of human behaviour, which is very diverse.
     
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    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #32

    If you have such a hatred for the Edenist Congregation, I suggest not being just a half coward but have your benefactor finish the job for you.




    Other than just not wanting for others what you have for yourself which is explanatory enough, this thread makes no sense for anything but a preconceived objective.

    As no physical impairment at birth exist to prevent pro-creation but one that is physiological at best if that, for any argumentative discussion just where is your pathology to be found.
     
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    #33
    no i wouldn't knock on your door, i'd send my girlfriends around. trust me they can deal with any man or woman.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #34
    You are mumbling again. Turn down your drug supply.

    People suffering from depression have absolutely no physical impairment preventing them from eating, working, etc, yet that very real pathology can also result in premature demise. Try again.

    Reminds me of a quote from one of my favorite movies:

    "Well, like he says, it's mostly odd things he does, helping like... here and there, as it might be."

    Yah, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to see any of your girlfriends on my doorstep either, helping like.
     
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    Warner Active Member

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    #35
    I've heard once that homosexuality of a person is a result of mother's illness in pregnant period. If I'm not mistaken flu can be the reason of future pathology for the kid. Thus person with homosexual features in most are victims of viruses.
     
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    #36
    I have no idea about movies as i don't own a TV so cant watch them unless i download them

    It is not fully understood whats causes the imbalance in maternal hormones around week 8 of a pregnancy but it is now widely accepted that this is the root cause to intersexed, transsexual, and homosexual conditions.
    drugs are the biggest candidate, it is well documented that some can cause major birth defects, and sexual ambiguity
     
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  17. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Not exactly the type of thing you catch on tv..... Lovely film about a fine upstanding British youth who liked to help.....

    [​IMG]

    Well worth a watch IMO.
     
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    #38
    sorry i cant watch anything containing violence or anything like horror movies. they scare me and upset me.
    Same as the news, which is why i don't own a TV. i cant watch it lol
     
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    #39
    Bah, I find those films far less upsetting than the news ;).
     
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    #40
    Well, i wasn't saying that. I was saying they should not be discriminated or anything because they are born this way. Their case is deviated from normal because their case does not allow reproduction and a high percentage of such poeple is going to render human life extinct.

    You can call this pathology, deviation from normal etc. but this topic is way to complex. Scientists have not been able to figure out a perfect theory. There are arguements that causes such as environmental factors, such as upbringing, child molestation, an absent mother play a role in their orientation. Questions are still alive if there is a genetic fault at the time when someone is born. Scientists have tried to figure out the genetic prospect by studying twin childrens and their has been a 51% correlation. The debate goes on and on. Keeping the scientific studies aside, you can call it a deviation from normal behavior because a high percentage of this community will not be fruitful.
     
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