Google's algorithm changed... what are you gonna do about it?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by stormvault, Mar 21, 2011.

  1. cnich007

    cnich007 Peon

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    #21
    Google finally admitted they white/black list too. Too bad they don't white list unless the heat is no them after they mess up. Don't know how ehow ranks so high....lots of garbage from them.
     
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  2. RamCity

    RamCity Peon

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    #22
    Will you kindly share some seo tricks you use! It will help us here.

    I have seen you are a popular seo in freelancer. Also you do use xrumer blast works. I have no idea about xrumer and want to know more about xrumer and Angela/Paul profiles you use.
     
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  3. J_Data

    J_Data Peon

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    #23
    I am not sure how bad the content farm slap has hit people, but I am not really seeing a huge difference in my own rankings, in fact I have a 100% blackhat site that has been jumping in popularity. Now when I say 100% blackhat, that does not mean that I over did it like many do. I did use unique, but horrible content, a unique, but horrible content 15 spoke linkwheel periodic xrumer and scrapebox blasts, but have not done any link building for over a year.

    This site has recently went from the bottom of page 1 to the first link for the primary keyword, and from page 3 to the top of Page 2 for the secondary and more profitable keyword.

    I am working on a new micro-niche blog, similar structure to the one mentioned above. I have 7 unique on-site content pages, and I have created 7 unique off-site articles and submitted them to ezine. The site is already climbing in the rankings after 1 week. It is nothing to get excited about yet, however, the early indications are performing better than most of my previous projects of the same difficulty level (competition etc.)

    I know this is not a good indicator yet to really see how this will affect us, but I am real hopeful that this means that Google is successfully valuing unique content higher without as much emphasis on quantity and quality of link sources. If this is the case, we can all just shift our budgets to creating quality unique content.
     
    J_Data, Mar 23, 2011 IP
  4. Tessa_86

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    #24
    Yes, now it's all about unique content marketing. Just use the different contents in each article directories, blogs and so on. This is only way to overcome this.
     
    Tessa_86, Mar 23, 2011 IP
  5. ebookdragon

    ebookdragon Peon

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    #25
    google is playing ping pong with my site and i cant understand it. its happening from many days. Some times its ahead and some times it goes back. yesterday it was on first page and today its on 10th but on thing i notice then when my site goes backwards then it came back on better position. can any one explain what is going on?. i know goolge make some changes an they announce it previous month but are they still making changes?
     
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  6. J_Data

    J_Data Peon

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    #26
    I also have a site that has been really jumping around, from page 1 to not even listed. I have also noticed that my competitors for that keyword are jumping around a lot. I am stumped as to what could be going on. This jumping around has been going on for about 3 months.
     
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  7. johnnycashout

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    #27
    Do you guys think I should delete my articles from article directories? I usually copy and pasted and provided a link back to my blog with those..?
     
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  8. danmon

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    #28
    wow.. wikipedia is a content farm..!!???? where did that come from now...
    i do not doubt that as people dont go there and keep posting they spinned articles like they do on ezine n the other sites...
    atleast wikipedia is strict with it guidelines and keep to it (most of the times :p)

    and when it comes to google update... there has been 600 google algo changes in 2010.. the link farms was just one of the many that they did this year... so if you were keeping yourself ready for it from the last year this so called 'panda update' would not have affected..
     
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  9. LinkGenie

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    #29
    Thank you for the useful article. Google will change their algo frequently. We should use techniques which can survive from changes. Here some key things to remember.
    -Always write contents for users not for search engines
    -Write unique and useful contents
    -Think about your brand image than search ranking
    -Your site should what you are promising.
    -Dont depend on SEO. Do other marketing also.
     
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  10. onlineprime08

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    #30
    Well I have to get better than the usual me that does the work. :)
    If google changes, means we too should change and get better so we can cope with Google updates. :)
     
    onlineprime08, Mar 23, 2011 IP
  11. shrikrishnatechnologies

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    #31
    Content Content Content Content Content Content all Content Content work on seo now
     
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    #32
    my referral traffic which is coming from ezine and hubpages get down,
     
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  13. northernweb

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    #33
    this algo change has effected a few of my sites which are still jumping in and out of the rankings. this is proving problematic because when they are ranking - they are seriously selling. but when they're not my income stream dies. I hope google manages to sort this out soon because both site owners and it's users are going to be getting sick and tired of the constant shuffle in their results.
     
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  14. shrikrishnatechnologies

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    #34
    you are in trouble if you used same article in different article directories ...
     
    shrikrishnatechnologies, Mar 23, 2011 IP
  15. brohhma

    brohhma Greenhorn

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    #35
    Well, this is pretty interesting that people are still talking on this. It is all set already and everyone received their shares per they deserved.

    On ezine: Ezine deserves it, a page of them contain more links than article texts/words. They never cared to put the 'subscription' idea into work, they were careless. They did not realize that things can go this way completely. When they tried to put more emphasis in original and 'relevant' content, they were seemingly developing a bad habit of writing in most of their writers. Now they are trying to go beyond and put other models of business in line. So it is just a diversion of target, for me, though whatever be the perspective. Being EzineArticles, generating series of 'article template' is completely a 'no respect' act by them. Why do they think of keeping 'writing' in a 'prescription'. How? This is too sad. When you undermine the spirit of writers and start to develop tools like 'templates' then it is wrong. Their activities are evident enough that they were and are hugely involved in customizing 'authorship' for SEO ONLY, than human readers. The way we looked at ezine previously, now should come under the microscope. Do they deserve the affection from us?

    On eHow: They were always brilliant. They never craved for links - its true. They only focused on user experiences - i mean providing users with helpful content. And helping them beyond 'clicking on links' to real life. Which one of them - ezine and ehow - is more worthy to you as a reference? You know the answer. You know the reason.

    Now let us focus on other aspects of the content we share on these directories:

    People use them as free content and use them on their blogs and sites. As long they meet the publishers guidelines of respective directories, they are ok. But do they love their work, blog, site? They try free things. Instead they should put some works that shows they love what they do. They should either write their own content filled with quality, to survive in the trend.

    Google is less likely to stay with the 'relevancy' matrix - as a matter of fact, they have already changed. They are switching to 'accuracy'. So you aim in providing 'accurate' information.
     
    brohhma, Mar 23, 2011 IP
  16. huiz41

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    #36
    I'm going to keep doing what we've been doing - use the tried and true seo strategies on a daily bases increase our site's rankings.
     
    huiz41, Mar 23, 2011 IP
  17. td.software

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    #37
    While Wikipedia does not exploit advertising, it definitely exploits keywords because every entry in its platform is a tie to a keyword or keyphrase.

    The difference between it and any Question and Answer sites is that in Q&A sites, the heading is in the form of a question. On Wikipedia, users log on, create a topic header and then create content which acts as a bucket of related keyword and keyphrase collections. However, in the end, aside from it being somewhat entertaining and appealing to our curiosity, we all know we can't use it as reference or even as fact foundation for things like supporting cases in court.


    You said "according to research"... What research?

    I went to Britannica Online Encyclopedia and looked up ten things in it that I also looked up in Wikipedia. In all ten cases, the material was more thorough, more accurate, and more well written than what was on Wikipedia.

    I then did the same test with The International Foundation for Information Technology (IF4IT) against Wikipedia and found that the majority of the entries in IF4IT weren't even in Wikipedia (probably because of domain specificity) and, for those few things that were in Wikipedia, I found WP's entries to be far less complete, far less accurate, and not as well written.

    Don't get me wrong, I think WP is cool and fun, and it's a great concept. However, it's not a valid reference. If it's not a valid reference, and it's not a retail sales site, and its not a social networking site, etc., then what is it? It's content is technically no more valuable than a lot of the Q&A sites that Google calls Content Farms, which in my opinion would make it a Content Farm, too.

    Enjoy
     
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  18. td.software

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    #38
    I don't think Google could ping eHow without pinging its own Knol site or even Wikipedia. They're all content collectors of one form or another and the quality of the the content ranges from great to questionable in all cases.
     
    td.software, Mar 24, 2011 IP