U.S. support is mocked by rape of African women by Libyan rebels

Any thoughts on this one?

 

Not sure of the above but lets hope those gals have left town because if Benghazi falls to Qaddafi there may be a repeat performance.
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Evening news implies the UN has passed the no-fly resolution and sounds like US will be in the thick of it in just a few days.

Preventing the fall of Benghazi would be positive and hopefully the Administration will follow through with military involvement.

 

America can go in and overthrow a sovereign leader in the name of saving lives, but there has been an ongoing genocide campaign in the Congo (Zaire) for more than 10 years and America refuse to go in overthrow their leader and save countless lives. Hypocracy, contradiction or what?

 

Or simpli knowledge that Africa is politically immature and eliminating one dictator wil simply make room for another one .

 

And what is Libya?

 

A forty year dictator who's time has come due. If there were somewhere for him to go he would already have left...he is a fool.

Not many believe the insurgents are all from the local church Choir.

 

Exactley, Libya is an African nation, but the struggle in the Ivory Coast is being ignored also.
Maybe cocoa beans are not as important to the UK,USA and Europe as Libyan oils is.

Hypocracy at its worst.

 

Thank you for an honest response. Indeed hypocrisy at its worse. I get a funny feeling that this invasion by Western forces for oil will not only make the situation in Libya worse but will back fire in the face of the U.S. America is broke and cannot afford a third conflict with a Muslim nation.

 

The people of Libya and even Arab nations have asked for the no-fly zone. The US and other allies at least have the backing of the UN for this action to go ahead. I think the US has learnt a lot from previous mistakes.

 

Yah, Ivory coast and Zaire don't impact our oil market, so no sweat. Slaughter each other. Certainly true with Rwanda. On the bright side, France(the new world leader) is leading the charge in Lybia. Apparently they have had their air assets in Lybian airspace for some time now. Its the UN to the rescue with France leading and the US following along, once we get the order from the UN that is.

Have no fear. I'm confident we will still pick up the lion's share of the tab and 100% of the blame when the people who replace Qadhafi turn out to be a bunch of assh*les.

My daughter asked me for a pink pony.

So funny that you overtly represent and support the very hypocrisy every one else finds obvious.

 

Oil is a factor but you are the hypocrite for choosing that as the sole objective as opposed to humanitarian motivation among others that are just as compelling that motivated the UN vote. Russia and China would not have abstained otherwise.

You are a bit odd having put down black leaders previously for right wing extremist in lue of ML King, and now not recognizing the present Administrations obvious affinity in supporting native African advancements - I really doubt your narrow viewpoint will pit Black Africa against the Black American President in favor of Qaddafi a 40 year dictator, suspect rebels or not.

 

Yeah, and I bet you didn't get it for her.

Yes but we have established over and over that you speak against the majority on all things so it is not as if your take on this is worth considering. It's called democracy. Best get used to it.

 

Not just because she asked for it, no. My house works on the merit system, something I'm quite sure you are unfamiliar with.

/Chuckle. Have we established that?

Care to comment on why India, Russia, China, and Germany all abstained from the UN vote on the no fly zone, or why they will not be committing resources to the cause? Care to comment on why Barack Obama is following instead of leading the effort if it is something he believes in?

 

Funny how you're backing them now huh..? I can't be bothered searching all your posts decrying the previous actions of ALL the countries you're applauding now. India & China in particular. Doesn't suit your right-wing agenda now huh?

Once bitten..?

Obama knows better..?

Whilst I don't claim to know the real reasons as yet, they will come out soon enough. I can see this won't be another Iraq.

Here's the scenario i'm seeing. Gaddafi is gone. The people will win. If the US didn't help out here then the winners will hate the US even more. Now, at least the US and it's allies will have some respect by the winners, and the allies can now say with some dignity, hey, we helped you and are not your enemy

It seems some are arguing that the winners here will be anti-US Muslims. If that is the case then standing by doing nothing will only enforce the winners to attack their perceived enemy even moreso. At least now they will see the world IS trying to help them and not give them more enemies to fight.

 

Not sure how you got the idea I was backing Russia, China, India, and company. My post was mostly mocking your sudden hawkish position on this conflict. What were your reasons for that again?

lmao. You don't know the reason why Russia and China are abstaining? Have you never read even a single of ATVKing's anti-US rants? I know you've chimed in on a few, though I doubt you've taken the time to read up on Kosovo. Here is a clue. The guy who breaks up a fight is always ends up getting hit.

Bill Clinton thought it would be a good idea to send US forces to Kosovo, at the behest of the UN, to keep ATVKing and his ilk from butchering the Albanians and Muslims. 15 years later, hes telling everyone who will listen how evil the US govt. is for preventing his genocide, and guys like you nodding in agreement.

There was no shutting you and your friends up about our intervention with Saddam, despite the fact there had been many such uprisings in Iraq against his brutal and oppressive rule.

The only difference between then and now is that we now have a President who most of America's allies(and most Americans for that matter), doubt has commitment to stay the course see such an enormous commitment to its conclusion. Oh, and an American public that is clamoring for smaller government and fewer entanglements overseas, not more.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why China (and the rest) are abstaining. Who needs to pour a nation's blood and treasure into such a black hole that nobody will thank you for later on, and many will actually hate you for your involvement. Look at all the thanks we got for Kosovo.

There will be short lived support for this engagement because it means getting rid of Qadhafi, a known state sponsor of terror/terrorist(who your buddy ATVKing absolutely admires).

I would be 100% behind this action if I thought our leadership had the first inkling of a plan. Right now, it is likely that Obama will leave Libya looking more like Yemen or Somalia than Egypt, and if that turns out to be the case, most folks will be wondering how to resurrect crazy old Qadhafi, including the Libyans.

What a load of cr*p. Give me what I want and I'll respect you in the morning . I think that is on the list of original lies.

 

Does it really matter - not for the previous Administration in Iraqi, still looking for WMD......

In this case, Libya there is an armed uprising.

 

As if on queue, 24 hours into the operation, already we are being abused for our involvement:

First you have Qadhafi claiming 48 civilian casualties "targeted" by the missiles aimed at Anti Aircraft batteries:

Then you get the Arab League, whose "support" Bushranger was bragging about, piling on and abandoning ship.

Of course that provides Russia full license to chime in from the cheap seats:

And, as expected, encouraged by the results of their propaganda, the Qadhafi regime bumps the numbers:

I give it less than 24 hours before Bushranger joins in the condemnation party, after being so supportive a scant few hours prior.

All the more reason to say, screw those people, all of them. Let them butcher each other. Let China, Russia, Bushranger, and the rest go solve the problems of the world, and put out their blood and tax dollars to do it.

 

When troops start going door to door, commiting raids on every single house, arresting citizens on the slightest pretense of being an enemy combatant, then I will start complaining. When the big oil companies move in like hawks to steal ill-gotten gains, I will complain even more. Agreed.

They have stated there will be NO ground war this time and they STILL have the support of the rebels I'll be supporting the allies action.

 

Lets not forget Hugo:

.....and tax dollars to do it.


Multi-billions of Qaddafi funds have been impounded within the US - I wonder if the Fat Cats will keep it from being used for the war effort....was probably used as campaign contributions for the needy.

 

I believe the Libyan people started this. Check your facts.