Nevada to vote on legalizing marijuana

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  1. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #21
    All of the effects are short term, and obviously without the high most people wouldnt smoke.

    I want it legalized for recreation, I dont care if they make THC pills. Take people out of jail and get them working, and becoming productive members of society.

    Many people eat it since smoking it can give obvious bodily signs that you are stoned. Eating it will give you the high, minus the red eye.


     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Who wants Brownies!? :D
     
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    #23
    First, please describe what you mean by "drugs". We are a quickly turning into a nation of prescription drug junkies, and I'm still not completely clear on what are the "good" drugs and what are the "bad" drugs. Apparently patentability plays a big part in the distinction.

    Second, the pot smoking, loser hippy is a stereotype which has been perpetrated by those who are scared of it(the reasons they fear it vary).
    It is not really an accurate stereotype. I mean there are loser pot heads, but there are also very responsible, hard working adults, whom smoke pot in moderation. The thing is, you'll never know who those people are, because they could get into legal trouble or be looked down upon(or withstand detrimental consequences to their career, etc) if they let anyone know.


    Alcohol destroys far more lives than weed ever could and yet the stereotype that is attached to alcohol
    use is far less damaging. Why is this? It's just marketing, like so many other things.
     
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  4. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Lorien: did you ever smoke pot? sounds like you never had it.

    I did. years ago. It did make me lazy. Used far too much of it during a period. Slowed down and ultimately stopped decades ago.

    I view it as not being a great thing....but not being a devil drug. There are far worse things.

    I suspect decriminalizing it would be sort of tricky. Control the strength too much and the pot heads would be out there growing and selling much stronger pot.

    Its legal in Amsterdam...but I don't know how they control it or regulate it.

    If all legal alcohol was regulated to be no stronger than 50 proof (25%) I'd bet bootleggers would be making and selling stronger alcohol. Hah....that would kill tax revenues ;)

    151 rum (75.5% alcohol) and grain alcohol (like 90-95% alcohol) are legal in the states but really not very popular.

    It definately made me lazy and undirected but that was probably due to using far too much of it. Had I used it much more moderately it probably wouldn't have impacted me that way at all.

    Dave
     
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  5. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    Im sure those who grow now will continue to grow. Why go buy it when you can grow your own strains and produce it by the pound in your closet, out of sight and cheaper than buying with more THC by weight?
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #26
    So you eat fast food twice a day and have a fat overweight face? No wonder you are so angry.

    Cut back holmes, take some B12.
     
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  7. lorien1973

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    #27
    I never have. My perspective with this comes from family members who turned from normal people into losers from starting with drugs. My ex also smoked pot as well. She turned from a normal chick, to a quiet, boring, chick. I thought it smelt like a burning raccoon. I don't really drink, either. I don't see the point of either.

    But, as I said in the beginning. I do not care, per say, about legalizing marijuana or drugs. But we live in a society, where if you mess up your life due to choices of your own, I am forced to pay for your life (taxation) to make sure you have medical insurance, a check each week (welfare), etc. Remove those burdens from me, and puff away and be a loser their heart's content.
     
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    #28
    Should concentrate on gun laws first - A paranoid stoner is more likely to shoot the next door neighbour if he has a legally obtained gun. What a dumb Idea to have legalised guns. In that respect cannabis is reletivly harmless, if not only really harmful to the individual. The gun is lethal to others
     
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    Yes how dumb! Imagine a world where guns are illegal, but drug users are okay and free to steal from people to continue their "habit". That's a ton better!
     
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  10. dcristo

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    #30
    That's where you are wrong bud, it's a very harmful drug when used more then occasionally. People are becoming psychotic from the shit.
     
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    #31
    jesus, you can't be serious dude.....
    i guess this is how rumors get spread.
     
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    #32
    I know. cuz it isn't reality. right? ;)

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8124-1428225,00.html

     
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  13. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #33
    Actually, there is an alarming correlation between heavy marijuana usage and major depression / psychosis. Ask any psychiatrist what the main cause of depression and psychosis is for their patients, and I bet most of them would say weed. If you think it's a harmless drug you are kidding yourself. There are many fucked up people because of the drug. Just keep believing what the TV feeds you :rolleyes:
     
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    #34
    Have you ever looked up info on its negative health effects on WebMD. If you are anti pot you might not like what you see. It has also now been reported on the major news that preliminary tests show that it retards/prevents alzhiemers.
    Who would have thought that...LMAO

    Actually there are probably just as many successful persons smoking as there are unsuccessful. Only when you look at them they don`t fit the stereotype so you do not think of them as potheads.

    There is however a noticable number of pathetic persons who use it as an escape and think about little else. But I've seen that happen with all sorts of other crutches such as food, sex, alcohol, music, sports, religion and internet forums. I think its more about the person.
     
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    #35
    The whole thing is not an issue for me one way or the other. But what would be wierd would be to legalize it...and simultaneously control its strength.

    I have no idea if that was part of the package....but if they minimized its strength I bet there would be plenty of people growing and selling illegal strong drugs.
     
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    #36
    It wouldn't matter. What are you gonna do? Test everyone's pot to make sure its below the legal limit? It would be unenforceable.

    Here's my solution.

    You want pot to be legal. Great. But, before you can collect any sort of government benefit, you must submit to a drug test. If you test positive, you are immediately turned down. Sound fair? I think so.
     
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    #37
    I hear marijuana is weak in the States though, maybe we are talking about different weed here :)
     
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    #38
    I used to smoke it and it did indeed make me paranoid and psychotic. I talk to lots of people who had the same experience. As far as it making one peaceful and calm, possibly some people. But it seems its the drug of choice along with alcohol for todays violent gangs so. A blunt in one hand and gun in the other.

    Having said that though I'd rather be around a pothead than a drunk most any day. But I'd rather avoid either.

    After a long two months we finally got the druggies where I live evicted today! woohoo. Just another 7 days and the sheriff will drag em out if they don't leave. One is on meth and the other crack and of course both smoke pot.

    It was a long process......
     
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    #39
    You were probably using laced marijuana.
     
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    #40
    Pot is not addictive but like anything it can be habit forming.
     
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