Answering Allegations about Islam - !!! Come And Join Us !!!

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  1. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #761
    This is the entirety of the only line you have ever written on the subject, to my knowledge. Does "no infractions" mean something other than "no infractions?"
     
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  2. mahmood

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    #762
    Sorry, my mistake. Lets see if you can solve the problem for me:

    Believe me it is clear for me but lets see if it is clear for you and you are brave enough to open your eyes.
    So you believe that it is OK to marry a 9 years old girl in 2006, right?

    You have 2 possible answers:
    1. "Yes it is OK" which means Menj - and I - was wrong when justified Muhammad based on "time and culture".
    2. "No it is not OK" which means you rull out "Sunna".
     
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  3. northpointaiki

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    #763
    Actually, to further clarify, Menj does share this view - whether 1400 years ago or today, Menj's view is apparently that it is acceptable to marry off a 9 year old daughter - in today's time.
     
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  4. Rick_Michael

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  5. mahmood

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    #765
    Thanks, I still would like to wait for Menj or Postingpays to confirm it.

    Problem is that if they confirm then the justification of time and culture goes to non-recycle bin:D
     
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  6. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #766
    I will not be going through this subject in vast detail since the topic has already been sufficiently dealt with. What I will be doing is to simply give a short summary of points which refutes the entire anti-Islamic’s position. This will make it easier for Christians who bring this argument up,

    From all the hadith literature we have, we can confidently say that if Aisha was alive today, that she would distance herself from these Christians making these sick arguments, and that she would want nothing to do with these people, this in itself speaks volumes since these people making this sick argument are supposed to be the good guys who are trying to be helpful.

    And Yes, We will follow Inshallah Each and Every Authentic Path of Nabi Allah Muhammad (pbuh).

    But what about you ?? Are you going to follow ?? see me down ...
     
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  7. lorien1973

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  8. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #768
    When we read the Bible, we learn about some weird pornographic teachings that are certainly not appropriate for anyone with morals to read. Please visit X-Rated Pornography in the Bible to see the many pornographic verses in the Bible. You will read for instance, about Solomon's wife's vagina tastes like wine for him!

    You will also see examples of Prophets sleeping with their neighbor's wives, such as the following:

    David watches a women bathe, likes what he sees, and "goes in unto her."

    Let us look at 2 Samuel 11:2-4 "One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful, and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, 'Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (She had purified herself from her uncleanness.) Then she went back home." This Holy Figure in the Bible is a pervert!.

    So what happened to "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. (From the NIV Bible, Leviticus 20:10)"????


    How come Leviticus 20:10 was compromised in the Bible and was never applied to King David?! Didn't King David know about this law?

    Yet, the Jews use his star as their holy symbol; the David Star, and the Christians call Jesus his son; "Son of David".

    It seems to me quite clearly that the Bible is nothing but a compromised corrupted Book as Jeremiah 8:8, 2 Samuel 11:2-4 and Leviticus 20:10 suggest.

    If the strong eats the weak in the Bible, then what moral and wisdom are we to learn from this book?
     
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  9. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #769
    As Posted by lorien1973 ::

    Whi is telling the figure of 10% ?? I don't believe in the propaganda news channels.

    Now see what Islam says about JIHAD


    But what about the FACTS, in BIBLE about the Terrorism and The Latest Stratigies of 9/11 Been Used By the US government that Killed Its Own Thousands of innocents. ???
     
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  10. lorien1973

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    #770
    http://www.tempointeractive.com/hg/nasional/2006/10/16/brk,20061016-86133,uk.html

    What news? These are peoples' own opinions:

    Other stories go further into this. Do you agree with the assessment? Support for blowing up people to advance the islamic cause? Its a really simple question.

    Your cohort also said that beheading is not a function of islam. do you concur with this?
     
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    #771
    "So what happened to "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. (From the NIV Bible, Leviticus 20:10)"????"
    I don't know what Bible you read Postingpays but my Bible says they will NOT be put to death but be tried in a court because she is not free!
     
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  12. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #772
    Well, who voted and who don't is not the matter of Discussion.

    I am again emphesising on the roots on which Religions Base. In every community there are some Black sheeps, Simple is that you are quoting those Black Sheeps again and again and I am trying to Point out the Real Islamic View.

    That's it !!!
     
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  13. lorien1973

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    #773
    I am asking you, directly. Do you, personally, support blowing up people and infrastructure to support the goals of Islam. It is not a tough question, really.
     
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  14. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #774
    I did even know that you never read your own Bible carefully

    Here is the Proof ::

    From :: http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Lev&chapter=20&verse=10
    Click the link and you will find ::

    NIV ©
    biblegateway Lev 20:10

    "‘If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife— with the wife of his neighbour—both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

    NASB ©
    biblegateway Lev 20:10

    ‘If there is a man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, one who commits adultery with his friend’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

    NLT ©
    biblegateway Lev 20:10

    "If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.

    MSG ©
    biblegateway Lev 20:10

    "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--the wife, say, of his neighbor--both the man and the woman, the adulterer and adulteress, must be put to death.

    BBE ©
    SABDAweb Lev 20:10

    And if a man has sex relations with another man’s wife, even the wife of his neighbour, he and she are certainly to be put to death.

    NRSV ©
    bibleoremusLev 20:10

    If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death.

    NKJV ©
    biblegateway Lev 20:10

    ‘The man who commits adultery with another man’s wife, he who commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress, shall surely be put to death.

    ====

    NOw which one do your read ????????

    Or you don't like to follow it ??????

    An Open Question to All the visitors ::

    How come Leviticus 20:10 was compromised in the Bible and was never applied to King David?!

    Didn't King David know about this law?
     
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    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #775
    This would be tough for you to Hide the Verses of your Own Bible, NOT for me ...

    This is not the matter of my PErsonel feelings or the matter of any other Muslim, I am Talking about Islam and its true teachings which surly 100% order Us to be in Peace if our enemy likes to as I earlier Quoted ::

     
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  16. lorien1973

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    #776
    That's a good non-answer. Try "yes" or "no" this time. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Postingpays

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    #777
    I think these statement is enough for some wise to Understand.

    But if still your mind is not permitting you to accept the reality of Islam, and still you want to meline it, Its upto you.

    It depends on the situation, If there is NO Threat of war from anti-Islamic Lobbies Or there is No Alert for war been announced than any Attacks against any Non-Muslims is not Permitted.

    Again, NOTE ISLAMIC Words ::

    May True God of Jesus (as), Guide you towards the right Path.
     
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    #778
    Whats wrong with that? Its immoral to enjoy the taste of her vagina? I love a good clean one.

    Sounds like a story being told to me.

    Where soes the Bible teach the strong should eat the weak?

    Was King David caught? Was the story approving of his behavior? Disapproving? whats your point? Whats the end of the story?

    I'm no big fan of the Bible but just because it describes human sexual behaviour in stories doesn't mean they are a bunch of perverts. If the Bible didn't mention sex it a "prudish unrealistic book" if it does they are all perverts.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    #779
    hmmm, again with the copy/past of a site that doesn't give you even half the story. Oh well, you can remain clueless or read further. If you still don't get it, then you are beyond hope.

    Clue: David is corrected for his wrong doing - just read a little further, if you can...
     
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    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #780
    Yes a story been told by your own BIBLE :: real the 3 Verses yourself (verse 2-4) and tell me who wrote this story ?? If God than you would have to believe on its truthfulness .. Don't you ??

    http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=2Sa&chapter=11&verse=2
    http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=2Sa&chapter=11&verse=3
    http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=2Sa&chapter=11&verse=4

    This is been told in Bible and I think according to you, It was either told you by God or Jesus .. Isn't ?? and still you want the proof of being caught ??

    So you accept this book as "prudish unrealistic book" ?? I don't think many of Jews and Chritinas will support you ... ???
     
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