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without reading all of this...i'd just like to make a point...most people mistake muslim for islmaic...and they are not the same! It's kind of like saying that a catholic and a christian are the same, when in fact they are not...they are based from the same original beliefs but are compeletely different religions and mindsets!

God has a few selected chosen people not a chosen religion or race

and honestly...if one is truly seeking after god, god will not care what religion they are from...He Himself will show them the way and path to the religion that is for them....I'm sorry but I'm not one that believes there is only one choice religion...to each his own! There is only one god...and if you are truely openheartedly searching for him, He will reveal himself to you...

and now I'll be shutting up cuz I don't like getting into religious debates...my only though about religion and people's personal feelings is this.....

if you are not secure enough within your faith to take a bit of a beating or joking for that matter...maybe you should rethink where your beliefs and values really rely because unfortunately there are those that have no other goals in life then to try and deface and humilize religions.

Anyways good luck with the Q&A

 

This happens with many cults: members are not all equal. Muslims that don't know about the 12th imam (murdering apostates, etc) are the ones who for whatever reason havn't been taught it. Probably because many Muslims would leave Islam if they heard the more wacky/radical stuff. Menj knows about it and believes it because he's completely absorbed by the religion and studied it himself.

I would be willing to bet that less than 50% of what Islam is, is taught in the mosques. And when a "moderate" tells you that Islam doesn't teach X, they're right. They don't teach it in the mosque unless you're a dedicated member.

 

I would like to know why Islam makes excuses for terrorist and we all have to tip toe around them.
When will you hold your people accountable so there can be peace in the world?

 

Something they can do is read the their 'hadiths' it may be enough to open their eyes.

 

Another thing they can do is pray and ask God to open their eyes!

 

I was not aware that they did.

Now there's a good question.

 

True

Actually I am going to start a series of questions here soon which focuses on this issue. I still give Menj time to "Answer my previous alligation..."

 

I don't believe that. I still think he's poser... I think he just likes to say these things in an attempt to rile people up.

 

Really? I thought it was just to sucker people into visiting his sites for the AdSense clicks.

 

That is a good question, I would like to see an answer also.
Do you mind if I borrow your question sometime?

 

How you know what I think ?? Wow !!!

So you believe in what Others Say ?? I think for every Religion there are some Basic Pillars from which we can't Astray. A I told you earlier, Aisha's (ra) parents were the ones who married her to our Prophet (pbuh), and that no Muslim or even pagan objected to the marriage because it was widely practiced. And even until today in 3rd world countries (Muslims and non-Muslims), little girls as young as 9 or 10 do get married. Anyway, the reason no one objected was to the Prophet's marriage was:

People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.

Marriage for young girls was widely practiced among Arabs back then, and even today in many third-world non-Muslim and Muslim countries.

And When you compare this with Mother Marry ::

According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36. Mary was only 13 when she married Joseph. When she first was arranged with Joseph she was between 7 to 9 years old."

WHO IS SAYING THIS ?? Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church NOT ME ..

Well, Ismaeli Sect is NOT considered to be the Muslims anymre even according to the Act of Pakistan As well, as Ahmedi, Islameeli, Qadyaani are written as well. And according to most of the scholors of Islam These sects are not known as Muslims.

Well, Its Proved that you people always make comments without understandig anything there. The tread is started by Me not Menj and It was me who wrote this not him. OPEN YOUR EYES FIRST.

Well, Let me tell you 100% Crystal Clear, Muhammad (pbuh) is not anly 100% Acceptable but its necessary for the True Muslim to Follow each and Every Authentic Sunnah of Him (pbuh) and follow the True 1 God, Allah which was told by not less than 1,24,000 Prophets that came to earth Including Jesus (pbuh) & Mosed (pbuh).

We Do believe 100% in Quran and Authentic Narrations of Hadith by Beloved Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Now is that Clear ??

 

And when are you going to hold yours ?? I hope you know your warfare history better, as always you attack the poor and still when they fight back, you started talking PEACE .. PEACE ..

Ask some of the mothers outside UK and America, whom sent their Sons to Die in Iraq And Afghanistan just for the cause of BUSH .. and I hope you will quote some comments there too of many soldiers as well.

 

I'm curious. If you forget one time to put (pbuh) after you type jesus or mohammad or someone; do you burn in hell for that or something? If you forget, is peace no longer upon him? I don't get the needless repetition.

 

Yes, They are good for Us and Our eyes are opened.

Alas !! you didn't read your Own bible and opened your Eyes. There are many Christians who wrote against Islam and Holy Qur'an but when a debate started they ran away saying O' Jesus !! O'Jesus .. !!

Need example ??

Oh, An ew scholar comes there....

Now you are going to teach Us what to put ?? Man, I don't like these typo Un-Authentic comments. We know where to put (pbuh) and if once we forgot to put, this doesn't mean we are going to burn in hell.

Infact, It will be filled by you already.

Let Our Beloved Jesus (pbuh) come and it will be all crystal clear to you, who was the life saver and who wasn't. (commentry on Bible verse)

 

Did you see the word GUESS in my statement? I had to make that assuption based on what you said about CNN/BBC and the Bible, and when I correct you you say that? hmmm

1. show some proof on what this priest said - I am curious to read this and see where he gets his info. I think she was probably about 13 to 18 when she was betrothed to be married - never had anyone think she was as young as 7 to 9 except you so far.
2. I am not a catholic, so I don't necessary agree with catholics. The catholic church is not hold the belief of all Christians. Protestant Christians don't pray to saints, etc.. In fact I have a lot to say against the religion because it goes against what Christ said. The Catholic church is like an american holiday - it was created to appeal to 2 groups - Christians and the Romans of the time.

Yes, perfectly clear - you worship mohamud as someone greater than Christ. I don't - so now I should die, because I will not bow down to mohamud- I will only worship the one and only true God.

mohamad has shown us in many ways how he could not be a prophet of God, he went against God in many things and his life style is that of any pagan society.

 

It can't be hell without you baby!

 

yes, example please.....

 

You guys are not even ready for a debate, - to much conceit in your hearts followed by death threads and other attacks.
That doesn't make your religion look good, does it?

... and so the stories go ...

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- Six Muslims accused of plotting an attack against Dutch politicians went on trial Monday, including a man who was acquitted last year on separate charges in a setback for prosecutors.

Since Samir Azzouz's earlier trial, the government has passed new laws making membership in a terrorist organization a crime and outlawing "recruiting" for a terrorist network. Azzouz, 20, is charged with both, as well as plotting to murder one or more politicians authorities said he considered hostile to Islam.

Evidence against him includes a videotaped apparent suicide message Azzouz recorded -- leaked and broadcast on national television -- in which he is shown holding an automatic rifle and saying he wanted to punish the Dutch people for their government's support of the U.S.-led war on terrorism.

"You are considered warriors because you chose this government. Your possessions and blood are promised to us," he said on the tape.

Months after Azzouz's release following his April 2005 acquittal, he was arrested and accused of plotting to attack a Dutch politician or government building. Authorities said he had attempted to buy weapons for the attack. ...

 

Well, We Believe in Muhammad (pbuh) doesn't mean We worship Him. We are the followers Of Muhammad and don't consider him as God. Alyazbillah.

We, Follow our Prophet Muhammad, NOT Worship Him. WE WORSHIP NON BUT ONE AND ONLY GOD

 

The thread will go on some other direction, You want to make ths discussion in New thread ??

So you want me to post stories ?? Hee I go now ..

More US Hispanics drawn to Islam
Marriage, post-9/11 curiosity, and a shared interest in issues such as immigration are key reasons.
By Amy Green | September 28, 2006

ORLANDO, FLA. – With her hijab and dark complexion, Catherine Garcia doesn't look like an Orlando native or a Disney tourist. When people ask where she's from, often they are surprised that it's not the Middle East but Colombia.

That's because Ms. Garcia, a bookstore clerk who immigrated to the US seven years ago, is Hispanic and Muslim. On this balmy afternoon at the start of Ramadan, the Islamic holy month, she is at her mosque dressed in long sleeves and a long skirt in keeping with the Islamic belief in modesty. "When I was in my country I never fit in the society. Here in Islam I feel like I fit with everything they believe," she says.

Garcia is one of a growing number of Hispanics across the US who have found common ground in a faith and culture bearing surprising similarities to their own heritage. From professionals to students to homemakers, they are drawn to the Muslim faith through marriage, curiosity and a shared interest in issues such as immigration.

The population of Hispanic Muslims has increased 30 percent to some 200,000 since 1999, estimates Ali Khan, national director of the American Muslim Council in Chicago. Many attribute the trend to a growing interest in Islam since the 2001 terrorist attacks and also to a collision between two burgeoning minority groups. They note that Muslims ruled Spain centuries ago, leaving an imprint on Spanish food, music, and language.

"Many Hispanics ... who are becoming Muslim, would say they are embracing their heritage, a heritage that was denied to them in a sense," says Ihsan Bagby, professor of Arabic and Islamic studies at the University of Kentucky.

The trend has spawned Latino Islamic organizations such as the Latino American Dawah Organization, established in 1997 by Hispanic converts in New York City. Today the organization is nationwide.

The growth in the Hispanic Muslim population is especially prevalent in New York, Florida, California, and Texas, where Hispanic communities are largest. In Orlando, the area's largest mosque, which serves some 700 worshipers each week, is located in a mostly Hispanic neighborhood. A few years ago it was rare to hear Spanish spoken at the mosque, says Imam Muhammad Musri, president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida.

Today there is a growing demand for books in Spanish, including the Koran, and requests for appearances on Spanish-language radio stations, Mr. Musri says. The mosque offers a Spanish-language education program in Islam for women on Saturdays. "I could easily see in the next few years a mosque that will have Spanish services and a Hispanic imam who will be leading the service," he says.

The two groups tend to be family-oriented, religious, and historically conservative politically, Dr. Bagby says. Many who convert are second- and third-generation Hispanic Americans.

The two groups also share an interest in social issues such as immigration, poverty, and healthcare. Earlier this year Muslims joined Hispanics in marches nationwide protesting immigration-reform proposals they felt were unfair.

In South Central Los Angeles, a group of Muslim UCLA students a decade ago established a medical clinic in this underserved area. Today the nonreligious University Muslim Medical Association Community Clinic treats some 16,000 patients, mostly Hispanic, who see it as a safe place to seek care without fear for their illegal status, says Mansur Khan, vice chairman of the board and one of the founders.

Although the clinic doesn't seek Muslim converts, Dr. Khan sees Hispanics taking an interest in his faith because it focuses on family, he says. One volunteer nurse founded a Latino Islamic organization in the area. Another Hispanic woman told Khan she felt drawn to the faith because of the head covering Muslim women wear. It reminded her of the Virgin Mary.

The trend is a sign that Islam is becoming more Americanized and more indigenous to the country, Bagby says. As Republican positions on issues such as immigration push Muslim Hispanics and blacks in a less conservative direction, Islam could move in the same direction. Muslim Hispanic and black involvement in American politics could demonstrate to Muslims worldwide the virtues of democracy, eventually softening fundamentalists. He believes the Osama bin Ladens of the world are a small minority, and that most fundamentalists are moving toward engagement with the West.

"The more Hispanics and other Americans [who] become Muslim, the stronger and wider the bridge between the Muslim community and the general larger American community," Bagby says. "Their words and approach have some weight because they are a source of pride for Muslims throughout the world."

Garcia left Colombia to study international business in the US. Always religious, she considered becoming a nun when she was younger. But her Catholic faith raised questions for her. She wondered about eating pork when the Bible forbids it, and about praying to Mary and the saints and not directly to God.

In the US she befriended Muslims and eventually converted to Islam. Her family in Colombia was supportive. Today she says her prayers in English, Spanish, and Arabic, and she eats Halal food in keeping with Islamic beliefs.

"It's the best thing that happened to me," says Garcia in soft, broken English. "I never expected to have so many blessings and be in peace like I am now."