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Discussion in 'Directories' started by banana8, Feb 2, 2011.

  1. keym4k3r

    keym4k3r Peon

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    #21
    This rises a serious question :
    And who is exactly Matt ?
    I hope that Google will find a better way to communicate with the audience, than private twitts of one of its employers.
    I appreciate what Matt Cutts have done for Internet community, but so far what I see Google spiders does not follow the words of Matt.
     
    keym4k3r, Feb 9, 2011 IP
  2. Oceanus

    Oceanus Member

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    #22
    We have a presentation with them later this week. I'll post back with their pitch. I think they have something more geared towards local search.
     
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    #23
    So far, my test link on botw has jet to bring the traffic one would expect. Actually I get way more free traffic from DP.

    Since my ad was approved 3 days ago, here are the stats showing how many referrals I got from botw versus other sources in last 72 hours

    [​IMG]
     
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    agtile Active Member

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    #24
    2 weeks in to it , honestly I dont feel any substantial benefit form it.Traffic wise, ROI or anything else.
    If things wont pickup, most likely will unsubscribe soon. Also as far the BL, it does not even shows on first page of Yahoo Site Explorer, it shows as #131 on second page.Usually the strongest BL shows at the very top at least for a while. This one never made to the top100 BL.
    Maybe it would benefit in the long run or if my site was weak.
    In my opinion, not worth the $49/mo
     
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  5. vninfo

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    #25
    you not should paid to submit!
     
    vninfo, Feb 27, 2011 IP
  6. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #26
    I am also sponsor on a category of botw but have'nt seen any benefit i will cancel the sponsorship at the end of trial. I may submit on the lifetime option .
     
    bendust, Feb 28, 2011 IP
  7. khanter

    khanter Peon

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    #27
    Why would you do that? What value are you getting currently that would prompt you to buy a permanent link? This interests me because I run a skills development workshop and we try to keep the cost to the webmasters to an absolute minimum. But the more I see, the more I think that we should be pushing the limits.
     
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  8. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #28
    I have not any desicion yet but I think google gives special value to the botw, yahoo and dmoz dirs. My sponsor link has not indexed by google when it indexed we will see the results. It may punish because it is not a regular link it is a sponsored link i am not sure about the results now.
     
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  9. khanter

    khanter Peon

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    #29
    To me a link is just a link. And that applies to most links. Dmoz and Yahoo might give you credibility and a boost but it is marginal at best. However to equate BOTW to Dmoz and Yahoo is crazy talk. They have survived ten years but doesn't make anyone a helicopter pilot. What is their content like? Do they clear out the dead wood? What sort of sites do they list? Do they only accept paid links? Are they selling position? What is a link worth if your sole interest is your ranking in the search results?
     
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  10. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #30
    1. to me a link not just a link it may not show when you search for the baklinks but every link has its special value.
    2. I am not equate any of botw, yahoo or dmoz I just said they are different from other regular directories for google
     
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  11. khanter

    khanter Peon

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    #31
    How different? Significantly different? Are you saying botw gives you a super boost? Do you have evidence of this?

    There are some very experienced link builders who disagree with you. Why are you so certain you are right?
     
    khanter, Feb 28, 2011 IP
  12. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #32
    I have evidence from other sites.



    I am experiencing seo too its their opinion and this is my opinion.
     
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  13. khanter

    khanter Peon

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    #33
    So you are taking the position that a link from botw is supercharged? And the evidence you have? What happened to the site when Google penalised the industry leaders at the time. Did botw slip out of the net or where they relegated to the naughty chair for awhile?
     
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  14. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #34
    You always take the sentences to what you want to understand. I am not certain on anything when it comes to seo since it is depend on the search engines policy and it is not very clear for us we know only what they say .
    When it comes to botw ; I am not saying it will certainly boost I am saying may boost your ranking with %65 possiblity because I have not exprience yet. And I am sure google will not penalize you for your regular link (but may penalize for sponsored links since it is dofollow) on botw since they published their policy about it.
    I do not think google will penalize botw or yahoo or as you said endustry leaders In the near future.
     
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  15. khanter

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    #35
    Maybe not. But what happened back then? Can anybody remember?

    Yahoo won't get penalised but I wouldn't be too sure about botw. They are bending the rules as far as I can see. You are making a mistake comparing the two and if you are as experienced as you claim to be, you should know that.
     
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  16. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #36
    As I have said on the post before; You always take the sentences to what you want to understand. I have not claim anything I am just write here my opinions you can accept or not it is your desicion.
    you speak as you wrote the rules of being exprienced.
     
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  17. khanter

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    #37
    No. Just interested to know whether the site you believe is selling super charged links was ever penalised by Google or not? And why you are creating the impression that botw and Yahoo play in the same league. Just curious.
     
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  18. bendust

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    #38
    The subject here is not other sites it is botw which google was published its policy about it.
    both are directories which differ from regular directories .
     
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  19. khanter

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    #39
    Are you aware that Google felt it necessary to penalise some of the market leaders a few years ago? There were apparantly as many as forty sites which were being promoted heavily on DP. If botw was one of them what did they start doing differently? How did they get rehabilitated and elevated to authority status? How did they throw off that pariah status? I know Yahoo didn't get penalised. But I wasn't around at the time and I don't have a list of who was and who wasn't penalised.

    It should be somewhere in the archives but I can't find it.
     
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  20. bendust

    bendust Active Member

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    #40
    Than do not submit to botw or whatever you suspect.
     
    bendust, Feb 28, 2011 IP