Surge of indians illegally crossing border from Mexico to get into US

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Rebecca, Feb 7, 2011.

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    There has been a drastic increase of Indians trying to get into the US illegally by crossing the border from Mexico into the US. Many of them have been Sikhs, claiming that they are trying to escape the religious persecution at home. The numbers went from only 99 Indians being caught, and arrested in 2009 at that border - And, went way up in 2010 over a thousand, and then this year in 2011 already 650. I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion as to why this is happening.


     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    Mexicans are getting creative to avoid being singled out by the Arizona copes. :)
     
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    If Indians are coming en masse, all the way to the other side of the planet to use our open southern border, you think the jihadis aren't? I wonder if Helvetii is right now wearing pink prison garb in Sherriff Arpaio's tent city prison :D.

    Did you catch this article about Indians now creating sham universities in the US to game the Visa program?
    While the broken English on the multi-millionaire human trafficker who can hardly speak english and operates a "school" handing out "degrees" in the US may be ironic and humorous, if you want a real laugh, check out the India Economic Times take on the very same story:
    Students indeed. LOL.
     
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    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    India is a ticking time bomb just like China . But while China may lash out as it collapses internally India will just explode . The current government philosophy is build faster then it falls down . Whit half the population living in the stone age , a resource crisis , a population crisis and an environmental crisis India is a festering boil . Zero stability , over nationalism and military paranoia (they need nuclear subs for peace lol) India it's a recipe for disaster .
     
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  5. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Ha Ha :)

    Interesting. Actually, I wasn't even aware of the existence of these fake universities. Surprisingly, it sounds like big business, from your article, "...Officials with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) say every year, they bust hundreds of schools that served as fronts for illegal immigration operations..." I've read about Tri-Valley University, obviously fraudulent, and Su has now been charged with money laundering, mail fraud and wire fraud. In articles as with the India Economic Times (btw, funny comparison between the two articles- lol), they make the students out to be ignorant, as if they had no idea. Yet, I can't even find anything showing this school even offered classes onsite. I may be mistaken about this, but it appears classes offered were online. Why would they need to come here to take online classes? Of course, just my opinion, but I do tend to believe it was a deliberate deception, not only on the schools part, but the students as well.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    I don't doubt it. Such a strong demand will always get filled by some enterprising individual, though the mob usually has the market cornered in these types of illegal activities.

    So much for overwhelming anti-Americanism. 5k for a real US student visa seems like a bargain, considering what most people in Central America pay for a coyote to smuggle them in(only later to be held hostage by the smugglers).

    I'm a big fan of shutting down the revolving door. Entering the country in this way should put you at the back of the line for a real visa, perhaps after a mandatory 4 year ban. I wouldn't mind seeing a felony arrest for those who illegally enter a second time.

    The new thing in Southern California are beach landings. They pack 30 people into a panga(12' single engine wood boat), head out to sea 120 miles, then pull onto the beaches of orange county at night time. It avoids all the military ships and built up surveillance in San Diego. Chatting with one of the border agents one night after the third boat landed in a week, apparently the Chinese make up the second largest minority of these people. Why would so many people want to flee such a great and thriving economy ;).
     
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    Probably trying to cash in their bonds.
     
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    In the case of the Chinese they're probably just coming to see their holdings.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Brief search on the Internet, so hopefully these statistics are correct:

    For the area you're speaking of, they've arrested 600 illegals sneaking in from the beaches in Southern California since the end of 2009. The Arizona border is more active, with 270,000 arrests since September 2009, and the seizure of massive amounts of drugs. With the original post in this thread, there have been somewhere around 1600 arrests specifically of Indians, since the beginning of 2010 at the border from Mexico into the Southern tip of Texas. Of course, these are only the arrests. It's likely that as many have made it through.

    Obviously, those are just three areas, and it's concerning, not only is it citizens of Mexico continually trying to illegally cross the border, but, even citizens from other countries travel to Mexico, as a way to illegally get into the US.
     
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    Lol sounds like the use need a wall of plasma on the border . The boarder of Arizona looks more like a highway rather then a border .
     
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    Its not Indians who are creating sham universities but they are Americans only who are doing this kind of things and attracting many people from world.....
     
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    Did you even read the article?

    How much you want to bet 97Posts here turns out to be an alt?
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    LOL. :)

    Last year, Obama filed a lawsuit against Arizona, and now Arizona has announced a lawsuit against the federal government for failing to secure the border. Oh, the drama. But, yes, in Arizona especially, illegal immigration is a very big problem.
     
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    Like lifeboats on the Titanic. There must be some widows, orphans and babies we can throw overboard to make this boat a bit more boyant ;).
     
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    Among the shitload of stuff you've mentioned (bolded), only the population crisis is true. Rest is just your a make-up of your prejudices. Quite hypocritical that so many prejudices are coming from an immigrant romanian

    To the OP and others
    My view is that illegal immigrants should be prosecuted and deported. Also, Sikhs or any other religion claiming "religious violence" against them is utterly false - an excuse to be granted asylum.
     
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    My eudaimonic thoughts approves your views. xD
     
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    Now look what ya started Apoc. Next we'll have people running thru the forum with scissors.
     
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    whilst wearing a burqa...
     
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    Lol Rob to bad i don't have enough time to post as much as I like . Fortunately you guys exist to keep the nutjobs in check :)

    @EG Eudaimonia basically means to transform all evil into good . Don't misuse the word just because you're hurt :p

    @Sar :

    Stone Age

    Resources - the least important water :
    http://www.arlingtoninstitute.org/wbp/global-water-crisis/606
    http://www.waterlink-international.com/news/id1506-Indian_Water_Crisis_Forecast.html

    And environment (you own PM said it) :
    http://www.financialexpress.com/news/pm-environmental-crisis-is-alarming/503688/

    For more biased data from a sour Romanian immigrant try Google . I heard that you can find info there .

    @Bush : ???
     
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    I took robjones's funny 'scissors' comment as relating to the sickle in your avatar, the burqa was relating to the head covering there too. I was 'supposedly' adding to the joke...
     
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