Egypt looks like it is going DOWN

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  1. MiaSucksDicks

    MiaSucksDicks Peon

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    #141
    May be Obama is little bit smarter and knows the American history after WWII and thinks the history of Vietnam, Cuba, Nicaragua, El Salvador,... should be a lesson for him.
     
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    #142
    oh yeah
    maybe your Obama still thinking could deal with Mullahs!
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #143
    To be fair to Obama, he has a lot more pressure to bring to bear against Mubarak, but it does seem odd in retrospect, that he remained completely silent through Iran's election. Perhaps he gambled that US neutrality would give the opposition more street credibility. It didn't pay off last year, so I guess we will see next Iranian election cycle :D.
     
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    #144
    yeah you are right, maybe for that reason he was silence. recently I see USA more care about our human right than before.
    our next election is for parliament and guess it will be derelict election.
     
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    #145
    Based on reports that Mubarek was going to step down today there's been dancing in the streets of Egypt. Apparently the word circulating was that it was a done deal and he'd formally announce it later today.

    I just watched the speech, and it was anything but a farewell speech. He gets credit for the assumptive close... he assured Egypt that he'd shoulder his responsibilities until the end of his term. He also made a statement that he was NOT going to bow to foreign pressure trying to make him do anything. [As he said this the second time I sear I heard the sound of Obama's head exploding, but it may have been my imagination.]

    My guess is that though it did not name a country, it will be assumed that remark was pointed toward DC, though it could be interpreted otherwise.

    The dancing in the streets turned to outrage, but I'm watching to see if he gets any traction outta the equivalent of saying he'll stay in office because he doesnt want the US telling Egypt what to do. Frankly a lotta the speech was an absolute 180 spin on reality, but I'll give him credit for an imaginative response.

    Frankly my own thought is that Egypt will be better off if he does stick around until a FAIR election takes place in Sept... cause the vacuum that'd be created by him just walking away could get dangerous. Whatever happens it'd be nice to see the folks that live there pick their own leader instead of accept whichever crew emerges victorious after armed camps go head to head in the wake of an abdication.

    The content of the speech is now being digested by the crowd... guess we'll see where it goes. The initial response doesnt look like they bought it.
     
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  6. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #146
    I think even the translator was reciting that speech in utter disbelief as well.

    What I got out of it:

    Phuck all you all and to hell with the US, I'm still in charge, I'll lighten up if you do as well, lets remember we're all children of Egypt. Long live the fatherland and God bless me the grand wizard of oz!

    Then he kinda repeated that statement a few times.
     
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    #147
    After clinging to power for "30" years Mubarak seems incapable of understanding he is the problem. Appointing a caretaker gov't and leaving with his money may not be an option for long and not many seem heartened to shed tears for the alternative outcome.

    The old saying: You can not lead a thirsty horse to water, is quite appropriate for the blind Mubarak.
     
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    #148
    Eureka ! We have discovered the 1st negative IQ in the history of man kind . Srsly is there anything that the US doesn't get blamed for ?
     
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    #149
    I blame global warming.
     
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  10. Mia

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    #150
    Oh, I'm pretty sure that its Bush's fault. ;)
     
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    #151
    OK, then let's blame Bush for global warming so we're both right. It's a win-win.
     
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    #152
    I think he uses a weather machine...
     
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    #153
    You notice that the regimes that are in trouble are all allied to the US.

    Doesn't seem to be much mention of Iran, Syria Lybia, the Hamas Coup in Gaza or Hezbollah Coup in Lebanon.
     
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  14. Mia

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    #154
    I also notice that all the regimes in trouble are run by dictators and are predominantly Islamic.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #155
    I think the point is, they are all "regimes". Some are allied to the US, others not. Almost all are Arab. I don't think there is a regime in the area that isn't kind of crapping it's pants right now, including the House of Saud. I can see Israel's concern about the brotherhood taking over, but watching all those mostly peaceful people in the streets looked to me like Democracy in action. If these guys somehow or other manage to turn out a secular government that respects civil liberties and human rights, I doubt there will be many populations of surrounding countries that will not want exactly the same. Its scary, but my money says the Islamists are equally scared.

    [Edit]Hey, if it all works out, will they build a monument to George W. Bush for starting it all by toppling the first dictator in the region?
     
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    #156
    Well... If maybe somebody hope that after moderate but a kind of dictatorial (we can see much more dictatorial regimes) regime in Egypt the new one which is going to get this place will see "more moderate" or "less dictatorial" - my prognosis it's not going to happen. In a while will see the Muslim brotherhood in a power...
    I’ll be happy if I'm wrong.
     
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    #157
    Shall I re-post your previous comments on Manning or Assange?
     
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    #158
    It's a dictator stepping down, and more a US puppet thrown away by the people, it is kinda strange to read the comments by some Americans here, one say that Egyptian army acted in a noble way, because US army trained them, I say, let the US army who is experienced in bombing civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, learn from the Egyptians.

    Another is wondering if they will make a monument for the war criminal Bush, well they did in Iraq itself when he visited, they gave him a shoe, something he will never forget, and you shouldn't too, and it seems Americans are still brainwashed by the Zionist media, and haven't seen Egyptians burning US flags, and haven't see protesters holding a picture of Mubarak with the star of David on his forehead,

    I agree some other regimes in the region should feel scared, including the racist regime in the illegal state of Israel, we look to Jerusalem, Haifa, Jaffa, Ramleh, Ledya and all the Palestinians cities, and wish they will be free too someday, and I hope that day won't be far, thank you Egyptians, while Americans chant "we can change" you taught them and the world, that you act.

     
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  19. Mia

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    #159
    You had me interested until you said "Bush".

    You can pretty much gauge the age of the average 3rd world DP poster based on their entire lifes experience. If they say Bush, it puts them around 10-12 years of age. Sucks turning 40, but it really affords one the luxury of looking at the larger picture and last 30+ years of US and Foreign Politics.

    If my view of the world were skewed by a lack of the last 30+ years, I think I might have the same lopsided ignorant view of reality too. Throw in several revisionist works and an educational system hell bent on re-writing reality, and again... My vision would be just as warped.
     
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    #160
    This message of spiritual integrity brought to you by a fervent Muslim who just happens to advertise for a porn-site owner.
     
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