Americans Think The US is the Best Because......

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Misato, Feb 3, 2011.

  1. Danielregwan

    Danielregwan Well-Known Member

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    #121
    Long live the United States of America.
     
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    So this is the new trend? blame america for everything? it used to be blame the Jews :(
     
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    #123
    no america actually gave political,financial,logistical and indeed military support to separatists and nationalists in our country...

    long live america as a nation and people but their politics suck asshole and their people are ignorant about what goes on...i wish no harm on anybody...
     
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    Im from italy , i dont speak english but im sure 100% of this. I can have a good life in Italy thanks to USA. So i love USA .Other countries only bla bla bla......but only rubbish there.All countryes follows Usa can eat, can sleep in a home , can dont worryes about wars ....USA USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Long life to USA , i hope one day USA will rules the whole world (also now do this) but without rubbish people speak against.
     
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    #125
    For the first time i saw 6 members viewing this thread at once.

    laxman363,atvking,Danielregwan,Law-Dude,Obamanation,robjones,TomBeard,

    What the hell is so intresting in this thread that is driving people crazy.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #126
    LoL. I always fire off a comment like, "Sponge Bob is Bad!" while my daughters watch that silly cartoon. I figure its good for skepticism and critical thinking. Bravo Laxman!

    Fact? Those are exactly the types of facts you should add to your own history books.

    A noisy minority. The views of AtvKing do not change the fact the a US Passport qualifies you for a visa in more countries than almost any other, or that the US remains one of the most desirable immigration destinations, especially by citizens of those nations that are experiencing an economic boom(China, India). The whiners seem to be comprised mostly of people who have angst about US activism against their agenda, which usually turns out to be genocide and Islamisation. There are also a few, "I live in a hopless shithole and need someone to blame for my problems" folk, but they are the exceptions.
     
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    Why don't you explain it to me, a Muslim living in America.
     
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  9. Ethical Geek

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    #129
    No wonder, the OP got banned. He must understand there's a thin line of difference between what is called as freedom of speech and a fundamentalist speech. Cross the line and you get kicked!
     
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  10. atvking

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    @obamanation

    it is fact...without your governments support the separatists would have never risen to power just like milosevic would not have been cemented in power by your support for separatists and nationalists...fact fact fact :) ...its of course of NO coincidence that the leaders of these countries would later turn out to be terrorists and criminals themselves :rolleyes: because you could not find honest people to support your "noble cause" you actually installed well known terrorists as presidents of the nationalist break away republics...

    just answer this one simple question: if you are so "holier than though" how come you had to make deals with local terrorists and human organ traffickers?

    sounds like a "Saddam" to me LOL...first install your thug and then make them do as you wish LOL...then when things get ugly you do an "iraq" on the country and everything is "justified" again LOL
     
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  11. Obamanation

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    And it is a fact that if Milosevic's dad had not nailed Milosevic's mom in the back seat of his car after a night of drinking at the local bar, he could never have committed genocide. I suppose we should blame the bar keep!

    We make deals with the best of available choices. Sometimes those choices turn out to be bad choices though, more often than not, they remain the best of the available choices on hand at the time the decisions are made.

    Your attempts to make the trampling of human rights a core value of US policy making are laughable at best.

    By the way, Israel(Solar Products) is now gone. It seems DP P&R Forum trolls are becoming a scarce breed since the departure of:
    Israel
    Helvetti
    GWorld
    Betaturn
    Menj
    Misato
    Several others I'm sure I've failed to mention

    I feel pressured to chat with you now, since I'm concerned about how much longer you'll be with us;).
     
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  12. atvking

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    you seem to be under the delusion that the USA fights for peace in the world... all politics aside you can trust in one single thing EVERY TIME and this is MONEY

    you see if there is no war the US government and its corporations lose billions and billions of $$$$$$ because the military industry and spending...if there is no war the USA loses POWER and control of the world because of the imminent demilitarisation that would follow... when this happens the corporations lose $$$ too...now if you know one single thing about politics its is that it has nothing to do with the people and everything to do with PROFIT...

    if you are one of them sheep who believe that the government is there for YOU the citizen then my arguments are wasted you...you simply live in a dream bubble and there is no help...

    lets just put all bias aside for this one single post and think about it...you said: you made deals with the best of available choices right?

    can it be possible that the best available choice for a whole nation was a human organ trafficker????

    im trying to imagine any sort of excuse for this but I swear on my life that i cant think of one...completely non biased honest to god it sounds idiotic...one of 2 possible conclusions offer themselves:

    1)there was nobody better than the human organ trafficker for the job (i refuse to believe this)

    2) it was done for a specific reason (much more likely no?)

    please tell me if you think there is an option 3) i honestly cant see one...
     
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  13. robjones

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    #133
    Yeah, youre right ATV, the US is responsible for the leaders chosen in your country, and possibly for all bad weather and crop failures there too. Ever since we invented the magic wand we've been just arbitrarily playing games like that when we get bored. Nobody is ever responsible for their own choices, it's always our fault if you choose poorly.

    Keep going, your history book explaining how we caused your countrymen to commit mass murders will be fascinating. :)

    Just be sure not to let solar products / israeI have a copy. Turns out he has a tendency to ignore intellectual rights. He isn't here now, but his next ID probably won't be any less a thief. Funny how 1 by 1 the anti- US trolls are getting exposed as dishonest SOBs... Just like your lies about not being a serb were exposed as blatant falsehoos. Tells you something about their (and your) credibility.
     
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    the US supported him openly...your leaders met with him and have him support...he kidnaps people and steals their organs and makes $$$ off of it...please answer my question if obamanation wont:

    how come there was nobody better?


    if you cant come up with an answer as to why the USA would support such a person for president then my explanation seems the most logical does it not?
     
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    You don't have your homework so the dog must have eaten it? No, that logic doesn't work.

    Regarding your question, I won't answer the specifics because I don't know that the man is a convicted organ trafficker, or even if he were, that it would fit your description of what that means. I will however answer in general terms.

    1) If the best people your section of the planet can put forward are genocidal maniacs and organ traffickers, that seems to reflect more on you than it does on us.
    2) Between organ trafficking and genocide,yes, I would say organ trafficking is less offensive.
     
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    If you really want to know why people in your vicinity pick crooks and prospective murderers to lead them I suggest you ask them. You seem to think we picked them. Guess again. Maybe you guys need to choose leaders more wisely. Since you consider yourself Yugoslavian, those are your countrymen that picked the guy, right? In fact, using your logic, the atrocities on both sides of your bloody civil war were committed by your countrymen by your standard.

    Maybe you need to bitch about your country being populated by morons instead of worrying about why we are stuck dealing with the assholes you guys bring to power. If we were allowed to pick them we would clearly pick better than you guys. Face it, milosevic wasn't exactly a brilliant choice. He got your butts nearly bombed into oblivion. Yes, those bombs said made in USA. Again, when you execute more civilians in one pop than anyone since the Nazis, you get the same treatment.
     
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  17. iLegitimate

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    Is not a worry of mine for what they fight.For this are politics.I know only evident facts, where Usa have influence (Western Europe , Oceania and relatives countrys(near Usa) people can eat, can sleep in a house and run a peacefull life.Where Usa have
    small influence (ex CCCP, Islamic countrys , China ) people fight to eat and survive every day.This is the only truth.
     
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    you just insulted the whole population of kosovo claiming that the best amongst them is organ harvester thaci LOL...oh and you just branded the entire population of serbia as genocidal maniacs...i suppose every muslim is a terrorist? and every US guy like them retards on jersey shore? yes your logic is sound and adult LOL


    educate yourself its a good read :)
    http://americankosovar.blogspot.com/2011/01/alleged-crimes-of-kosovos-prime.html

    ture the man is not convicted yet because he is USAs best boy in the region but you dont even have to read one tenth of the link you get a good picture LOL

    now answer my question o squirmy one: how come the USA gave support to such a person? the good old USA installing a puppet like this??? hmmmmmmm...makes you go hmmmm eh?...like there was nobody else on the planet :rolleyes: ... OH WAIT there must be a GOOD REASON right?...hmmmmmm what could it be LOL

    admit it LOL...its super obvious...give one rational adult explanation as to why the USA gave such a man support

    i hope you squirm around my question again i like how you squirm around it...amusing to say the least...

    again you so conveniently change the time line of events to your suiting...FIRST came US support for well known terrorists and separatists in our country THEN came the violence...educate yourself on something before you try to discuss it....

    maybe you have an answer: how come the USA did not pick anybody else, keeping in mind that thaci is a WELL known crime figure...why did they not pick somebody moderate?...dont say "you picked him" because it was the USA that bombed our country and gave independence to kosovo and its government and had ZERO objections to organ harvester thaci becoming president...please explain...dont be an idiot and say "he was the best guy all other kosovars are even worse" but give me an adult realistic answer...

    who fights in the ex USSR? china??? they are military superpowers they have no trouble keeping the peace...as for islamic countries you will find that most of the violence is imported by the USA...true they have their own problems but the USA just adds gasoline to the fire...
     
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    #139
    No wars in USSR and CHINA but people have no rights, no wars in islamic countrys but people have no rights and the 80%of people
    can't eat and run a decent life(school, housing, job opportunities, freedom)The key is the FREEDOM ok i dont know where are u from and if u can understand what is FREEDOM ok? But believe me is very important.And think about this please before adding other mind-blindness post, think about the freedom.We have this, thanks to USA, in USSR , CHINA and Islamic country there are no freedom, no humans right ,thats way many Ussr and China people came to Usa o Usa friends country.FREEDOM is also good to make money.
     
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    The US supported the emerging nation. They generally don't let us pick their leaders. Don't blame your civil wars on outsiders. Sorry your crew decided to throw in behind milosevic. He was just a thug, and he is the one you can blame for the bombs that got rained on your country. Choose more wisely in the future. Nobody owes you a personal apology, and none is forthcoming. Amazing that you can't see the relation between state sponsored executions and the rain of fire that it brought on.
     
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