Answering Allegations about Islam - !!! Come And Join Us !!!

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  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #681
    Moral = That does not make it right.
     
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  2. Postingpays

    Postingpays Well-Known Member

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    #682
    Let Us talk what your sacred scriptures say.

    Muslims :: Quran, InJeel, Torah, Zaboor
    Christian :: May be Bible. I don't know perfect as there are many who do believe in BBC/CNN more than Bible.

    I would go on, but it is pointless when you believe those hate-sites because a muslim wrote that, it must be true, (guess what - it isn't)
    Well, I just replied about Mother Merry (as) as you speak about Mother Aisha (ra) .. So why to be angry ??
     
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  3. debunked

    debunked Prominent Member

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    #683
    You think Christians believe BBC/CNN more than the Bible? OH, let me guess, you think everyone in America is a Christian or such.. ok...

    Not sure what you are saying for sure, your sentences are not very good here. I am not angry, just tired of the lies that keep coming back around were people copy/paste of a site that is full of untruth were they add to what the Bible says and tries to make things out that are not there. It is just foolishness. Mary is a special woman, but was imperfect. She is not to be worshiped or idolized. I look at her as someone special that God chose. Jesus, however, was more than that.

    I haven't been speaking against aisha in anyway, but others here say it was OK that she was only 9 when a man had sex with her. Like it would have been better than being a slave, when I would rather be a slave than a sex slave.
     
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  4. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #685
    So did Bush.

    - MENJ
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #686
    Has anyone sent a message to the terrorist front group CAIR? With that news, maybe they will just pack up and go.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #687
    Did he use a saw?
     
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    maldives Prominent Member

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    #688
    He used bullets. What is the difference? Death is death.
     
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  9. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #689
    No, but he used cluster bombs instead.

    - MENJ
     
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  10. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #690
    Only your sick mind believes that CAIR is "a terrorist front group". Of course their name Centre for American-Islamic Relations does not seem to matter to you.

    - MENJ
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #691
    A name is meaningless. It is actions which are meaningful.

    Actions like these:

    Senior CAIR employee Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a “Ismail” Royer, pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years in prison
    for participating in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia. He admitted to aiding and abetting three persons
    who sought training in a terrorist camp in Pakistan for the purpose of waging jihad against American troops in Afghanistan.
    Royer’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed with CAIR.


    CAIR's Director of Community Relations, Bassem Khafagi , was arrested by the United States due to his ties with a
    terror-financing front group. Khafagi pled guilty to charges of visa and bank fraud, and agreed to be deported to Egypt.
    Khafagi’s illegal actions occurred while he was employed by CAIR.


    On December 18, 2002, Ghassan Elashi, founding board member of CAIR-Texas, a founder of the Holy Land Foundation,
    and a brother-in-law of Musa Abu Marzook , was arrested by the United States and charged with, among other things,
    making false statements on export declarations, dealing in the property of a designated terrorist organization, conspiracy
    and money laundering. Ghassan Elashi committed his crimes while working at CAIR, and was found Guilty.

    CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing,
    has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble
    unless it accepts Islam.

    Rabih Haddad served as a CAIR Fundraiser. Haddad was co-founder of the Global Relief Foundation (“GRF”).
    GRF was designated by the US Treasury Department for financing the Al Qaida and other terrorist organizations
    and its assets were frozen by the US Government on December 14, 2001.

    Source: http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

    Omar Ahmad, the co-founder of CAIR has stated "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

    Sorry Mister, that's not the way we do things here in the civilized world. We have this wonderful thing called civil law which protects the rights of every American from religious zealots like Mr. Ahmad.
     
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  12. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    And I believe CAIR is suing the owner of that hate site for libel. It is being heard in the courts now.

    - MENJ
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #693
    Well of course, that is what CAIR does, it fights freedom of speech and tries to destroy our Constitution and replace it with Sharia law.

    That's a big duh.

    However, CAIR dropped its lawsuit against Anti-CAIR in order to avoid being forced to reveal it's financial relationship with Hamas.

    I will quote for you:

    In March 2006, shortly before a scheduled court hearing to decide on several of Whitehead’s requests (compelling CAIR to disclose its financial data, to answer questions about its relationship with Hamas and other Islamists, and to provide information regarding its leaders’ activities and intentions), the case was settled and then dismissed with prejudice by stipulation (meaning, the plaintiff has agreed to forever drop all of the claims that were in, or could have been in, the complaint)​
     
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  14. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #694
    Conspiracy theories don't appeal to me.

    That is a pity. I will contact my friends in CAIR and ask them why.

    - MENJ
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #695
    That's not a consipracy theory, that's a quote from CAIR co-founder Omar Ahmad:
    "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

     
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  16. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #696
    I have no reason to believe a hate site is quoting properly.

    - MENJ
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #697
    Anti-CAIR is an anti-HATE site. CAIR is a HATE site.

    But, of course, if you were willing to read anything but Islamist hate sites, you would have already discovered that the quote was initially recorded in an article by Lisa Gardiner in the San Ramon Valley Herald, hardly a hotbed of Zionism.

    I don't think you realize that we Americans don't want to see our country destroyed. It may seem like a really keen idea to you, but we're pretty fond of the United States of America and of our Constitution. We don't take kindly to people like CAIR trying to replace our Constitution with Islamic law.
     
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  18. Ibn Juferi

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    #698
    Its the other way round.

    - MENJ
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    SPIEGEL INTERVIEW WITH AGA KHAN lV - a descendant of mu
    "Islam Is a Faith of Reason"

    Karim Aga Khan IV, descendant of the prophet Muhammad and spiritual leader of 20 million Ismaili Muslims, discusses the foundations of his faith, the controversy over the pope's recent statements about Islam and ways of preventing a global clash between religions.

    Karim Aga Khan IV: "Nobody will ever convince me that the faith of Islam, that Christianity, that Judaism will fight each other in our times -- they have too much in common."
    SPIEGEL: Your Highness, in a lecture Pope Benedict XVI quoted Emperor Manuel as saying: "Show me just what Muhammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as a command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." This quotation from the 14th century has caused great uproar in the Muslim world. Why? And what was your reaction?

    Aga Khan: From my point of view, I would start by saying that I was concerned about this statement because this has caused great unhappiness in the Islamic world. There appears to be momentum towards more and more misunderstandings between religions, a degradation of relations. I think we all should try not to add anything to worsen the situation.

    The full interview here
     
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  20. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    And the Aga Khan is a founder of a Shi'ite sect, Ismailism (which is a heretical sect in the view of mainstream Islam). As if his comments have any meaning on the mainstream Muslims. I might as well quote Joseph Smith and brandish it as being representative of mainstream Christianity. You like that?

    - MENJ
     
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