Google Ban due internal linking

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by zlori, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. tampacardealer

    tampacardealer Peon

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    #21
    I second that. Google loves internal linking,,it's what the internet is all about. Just don't add them to your footer, it looks tacky and spammy.
     
    tampacardealer, Jan 23, 2011 IP
  2. SEO-WATCH

    SEO-WATCH Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Maybe you can let us know the URL to check what really has happened to your website.
     
    SEO-WATCH, Jan 23, 2011 IP
  3. tampacardealer

    tampacardealer Peon

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    #23
    Probably a good idea so you're not starting rumours
     
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  4. joebert

    joebert Well-Known Member

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    #24
    My first thought is that you tripped some sort of automated malware detection by adding so many links to the footer across so many pages at one time. That would only make sense if the detection doesn't consider whether the links are external or not though. My second thought is that perhaps all of these new links have scattered your pages weight all around and Google just hasn't reevaluated where you stand yet.

    If I were you, I would stick with this new change for awhile and see if it leads to steady growth. You had to have a reason for doing it in the first place, right? Things always get worse, before they get better. That's just life. :)
     
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  5. theseoguys

    theseoguys Member

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    #25
    Do the request for reconsideration, and do yourself a favour, and ADMIT what you did was wrong, and that you won't do it again. I had a site penalize a year ago after outsourcing some seo work. We told them what we did, that we were wrong, and would not do it again. We came back stronger than ever. It was resolved within a couple weeks. No sense waiting, put in the request as you have nothing else to lose.
     
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  6. zlori

    zlori Peon

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    #26
    Thanks again for all of your comments!

    Stuffs like "I've heard from an SEO Guru(?)" and "Google works with patterns" does not really apply here I think and they are useless, however I got some very good hints from the other comments...
    I think it's too risky to do not do a thing right now, so I'm gonna remove those footer links today or tomorrow, and I will do the reinclusion request this week..

    By the way the site is www.travelgrove.com.

    Expert comments are still very welcome!
     
    zlori, Jan 24, 2011 IP
  7. SEO-WATCH

    SEO-WATCH Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Your website is not banned at all and I have looked at your footer links this is completely allowed by Google Webmaster guidelines. Some of my sites have even more links on them and doing fine. Not need to remove them it's fine and looks good also users can easy access sections via your bottom links.

    We just past a Google update and this could be the cause your site has disappeared from Google search results, so don't panic ! :)

    When your website has dropped and you cannot find it anymore for some keywords you have work harder and spend more on link building now. You will see your site come back after some hard work :)
     
    SEO-WATCH, Jan 24, 2011 IP
  8. stellar1

    stellar1 Greenhorn

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    #28
    You're right, they're pretty useless comments if I do say so myself...I realized that only after posting. Good luck
     
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  9. zlori

    zlori Peon

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    #29
    Hi there,

    Yes our website got banned, but as I wrote before only one section of it and not the all. We have lost the 95% of the Google traffic on the travel guides section.
    I also thought this sort of linking should be fine with Google, but there is no other change we did lately.
    Also our pages shows up around ~250th position for keywords for what we had a spot on the first page. It is the same for exact searches as well (if I search for the exact title of our pages).
    Also the drop happened from one day to the other, and, again, we did not do any other changes lately so I have no other idea what could happen but a ban due the internal linking. Also we already gained some SEO-experience so would not try something what is well known to be a back-hat technique.. but apparently this itself was already too much.

    Let me know if you have any other thoughts of what could happen... :)

    thanks
     
    zlori, Jan 25, 2011 IP
  10. Ydeveloper

    Ydeveloper Greenhorn

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    #30
    According to Google guidelines, Google's crawl just follow links on any web page up to 100. It ignores the remaining links but all the links are more than expected..google will banned your site.
     
    Ydeveloper, Jan 25, 2011 IP
  11. zlori

    zlori Peon

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    #31
    Could you quote that guideline here (URL)?
     
    zlori, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  12. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #32
    At any point of doing this, did it not seem a little spammy to you? Remove the links then file a re-inclusion request.

     
    oseymour, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  13. oseymour

    oseymour Well-Known Member

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    #33
    How about just linking to the pages that are relevant.

    Update:

    your reduction in traffic might not be because of your linking. the guides section, where do you get the content? did you copy it from somewhere? That might be problem, you copied someone else's content.
     
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2011
    oseymour, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  14. Ledlauzis

    Ledlauzis Member

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    #34
    If your website is really baned form Google and no pages are indexed then thre is almost no way to get your website back on track. You can try to write google, but it will take ages or maybe even never till you get response.

    But in your case with that big site I would register new domain. Transfer all content to the new site(except nasty internal linking) and start from there. Of course you will lose links, but it is better than having nothing
     
    Ledlauzis, Jan 27, 2011 IP
  15. zlori

    zlori Peon

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    #35
    @oseymour: It did not look spammy to me... since I have seen it many sites, however maybe I was just too lazy to think about it.
    And we have 100% original unique content, really - each article is checked with CopyScape so that cannot be a reason.

    @Ledlauzis: Wow, your new domain idea is more than strange to me... :) I do doubt that would be a good idea.. also our sites are still indexed and they also appear among the search results just on very bad positions (300~400).

    Anyhow thanks for your feedback!
     
    zlori, Jan 28, 2011 IP
  16. outofphaze

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    #36
    Interlinking is good, dynamic interlinking is good also (as long as the keywords make sense).
    I have one such site monitored (with about 20 dynamic links generated to other internal pages) , and it is ranked fine (it is completely white-hat, and user-friendly site, though).
     
    outofphaze, Jan 28, 2011 IP
  17. SeoServe

    SeoServe Active Member

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    #37
    Our opinion:
    1) Internal linking is fine. Amazon and Ebay have several blocks with random items - this is just what you had on your site. And they still rank well
    2) Linking your several sites is also fine. Look at Amazon or EBay again: they mention their other projects in footer.
     
    SeoServe, Jan 28, 2011 IP
  18. HELMI4EVER

    HELMI4EVER Well-Known Member

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    #38
    Remove those links and carry on with your link building process
     
    HELMI4EVER, Jan 28, 2011 IP
  19. zlori

    zlori Peon

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    #39
    Hi all,

    I am not sure if I accentuated that I have added the backlinks 3 months ago and I got sandboxed only some weeks before.

    @SeoServe: I think you're right, but the idea is that I cannot compare our site to Ebay or Amazon (yet :p). This is something we have experienced before, it's also up on your trust what you can do and what you can't.

    I have removed the backlinks so now waiting to see any results... Thanks all.
     
    zlori, Feb 1, 2011 IP
  20. outofphaze

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    #40
    This is not entirely correct. Sites of ebay/amazon are treated by the same Google's algorithm.
    In the contrary, I learned a lot by studying those sites (For example, the stupid fact of putting one's logo at the top left, with a link to site's root)
    :)
     
    outofphaze, Feb 1, 2011 IP