It seems muslims are motivated my greed and matiralism

I also just think it must be pure ego. Because if there was a god give me one reason why it give a shit about you? You kidding me, think about it! How intelligent this thing would have to be to create everything in the knowable universe. Picture the most intelligent human that ever lived and then times he/she's intelligence by 99,999,999 trillion percent then followed by a number that simply dosn't exist and would crash your computer trying to load the zeros that followed.

What is it, you're to good to just die? Is that it, is that your problem? Oh self awareness is such a troubling thing to live with knowing that your existance is limited. Go cry about it, free advice.

 

Not a suprise that you would continue to lie, I told you so!

Really, "negro" LOL, im really saddened that you believe the Prophet (peace be upon him) used an English word.

And give me the proper reference, this is not properly referenced.

I have never heard of Ishaq Hadith, tell us more about the source of this narration.

Where is the racism in this?

And give us the proper reference.

Where is the source.

You are indeed a proven liar.

 

I can't work out if it's just you who's insecure or the whole of islam. But you seem to need to prove other peoples beliefs to be wrong, rarther than trying to supply proof your own to be right without refering to your cooking book. Instead of trying to disprove one magic book, just work on trying to prove that your magic book is right.

You know Allah dosn't like an ego, it's in the cooking book.

 

And give me the proper reference, this is not properly referenced.

That is the English translation. Bukhari, Book 52 Hadith 137

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Have you ever heard of Ibn Ishaq or Tabari ?

That there was a clear differentiation between white and black people. Most black people were used as slaves at that time, as evident from the hadiths.

Already did

Tabari II:11

Talk talk talk...

 

Lets do to this again, in a different way:

This is a fake hadith, the real hadith is as follows:

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 137:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham of Quantify and Khamisa (i.e. money and luxurious clothes) perish for he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased!"

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, " Let the slave of Dinar and Dirham, of Quantify and Khamisa perish as he is pleased if these things are given to him, and if not, he is displeased. Let such a person perish and relapse, and if he is pierced with a thorn, let him not find anyone to take it out for him. Paradise is for him who holds the reins of his horse to strive in Allah's Cause, with his hair unkempt and feet covered with dust: if he is appointed in the vanguard, he is perfectly satisfied with his post of guarding, and if he is appointed in the rearward, he accepts his post with satisfaction; (he is so simple and unambiguous that) if he asks for permission he is not permitted, and if he intercedes, his intercession is not accepted."

It does not mention "negro" it has been added by Islamophobics, which is where you got it from.

Clear lie.

Show me where you got this narration from, author, title of book, and reference within that book, and where I can obtain this book.

This is not the words of the Prophet (peace be upon him), even if it was there is no racism here.

Tabari II:11 as a reference is not enough, what is the title of the book, and where can I get it.

You are a liar, as has been proven with 1 fake narration you posted, where the word "negro" has been added. The rest of the narrations will follow.

Feel free to admit it was a mistake, or remain a liar.

 

What are you calling fake? Your Islamic hadith's?

I gave you the wiki link to Ibn shaq and Tabari (claimed to be one of the greatest historians of Islam). You should already be familiar with your books.

Again, Tabari and Tafsir-Altabiri that is the title of the book. Just Google it or find it in an online Islamic site.
Again, Ibn Shaq same deal here.

I don't want to get into much details of this but research what Islamic historians have been noting about "black people" and "black slaves". There was a clear differentiation. Trust me, there is much much more than what I posted above.

As for your Narration by Abu Huraira, how would I know that is authentic then? How many different narrations do you have?

 

They are not Hadith's, they are fabricated and attributed to the Prophet (peace be upon him)

I know Tabari very well.

You don't have to tell me that.

Wikipedia is not an academic source and more importantly an Islamic source of information.

Don't invent lies and then tell me "you can google it" or "here it is on wikipedia"

Tabari, was a hadeeth collector, he compiled hadith's, but, what you don't understand is that some of those hadith's are fabricated or weak and cannot be traced back or attributed to the Prophet (peace be upon him).

Hadith's are classified into weak, fabricated and authentic, because throughout time there were people just like you who are willing to invent a lie and attribute to the Prophet (peace be upon him) for obvious reasons.

Your job does not stop at merely quoting a hadeeth, but rather prove why it is authentic.

If you don't know the science of authentication of Hadith, you must ask the reputable scholars that are alive, or get the statements of those who have passed away, e.g. "Bukhari said it is authentic"

You can't run with a Hadith that you have no idea as to whether it is authentic or not. Your first step was to verify it's authenticity, THEN run with it.

So until (and you will not be able to) you prove why this is authentic, they are non-existent Hadith's.

Where is the racism? You have yet to prove this!

The first hadith had the word "negro" and "black" inserted by Islamophobes, while the rest are non existent.

I'm aware you have lots of propaganda and lies at your disposal, tell me something new.

And it's not even your own work, all these lies are distributed on multiple websites.

Lying is the only way to combat Islaam, either that or kill the Muslims, and it is not even effective.

Verification, follow up the reference given, that's what I did with your reference, here do the same:

Bukhari Volume 4 Book 52 Number 137 <<< this is the reference you gave me, go there, and see how wrong you was.

With regards to the other references you provided, then they are from Volume 2 of Tabaris works, and they are not even available in the English language, so how did you get them? Propaganda sites.

If in doubt ask questions, instead of quick fire statements.

It's not difficult to admit that you are wrong, Man makes mistakes, it's our nature.

 

Hello OP,

Christianity offers more, paradise, plus salvation, or being forgiven, because Jesus pbuh (as they believe) died for their sins, while Islam, tells us things that we really do not like to hear, it tells us, that we are responsible for our sins, nobody will be punished in advance on behalf of us for the sins we made, so Christianity should be a better deal for Muslims, if it was about greed, because we can have both then, this life, and next life, without much worrying about sins,

you know what really motivates us, Muslims?

in short, it is truth, and what makes sense and what does not, if you like to know how do Muslims think, then I have a better and more effective way for you:

first, stop thinking about how Muslims think for a while, and think about how do you yourself think, stop for a moment and think, ask yourself questions and answer them, if you are a Christian, will you be forgiven because you are a Christian, or you are a Christian because you will be forgiven (as you been told)? be honest to yourself,

if you are not a Christian, or do not follow any religion, think too, why? why you did not follow Christianity, or Islam, or else, is it based on personal experience, did you study both and they did not make any sense for you?

after you do this, you can go to next, which is study Islam, from books, not from youtube comments, that if you really want to know how do Muslims think, it is really not that hard to know, you only need to read Qur'an, some history, and some books written by Muslims or non-Muslims, but make sure they are neutral and honest, and again, try not to fall for what you like to hear, and take it as a whole truth only because it makes you feel good about yourself,

if you are too lazy, and do not wish to do so, then try at least not to accuse Muslims or attack them, based only on a comment you read on youtube, it won't be enough,

good luck

 

I wasn't saying that all Muslims are but the YouTuber I quoted seemed to be only interested in what he could easily get his hands on, I think he's a young muslim who believes by following Islam Allah will reward him with whatever he wants without having to work hard for it.

If muslims are motivated by truth then why do they just keep to reading and studying the Qur'an? How do you know how truthful it is, how do you know that Muhammad wasn't just a con-artist?

If another Muhammad came along today and said that he's reciving new messages from Allah via Jibrīl (Gabriel) would you believe him? Yes, no or maybe and why so?

 

Christians are forgiven only if the are truly sorry for their sin and do a hard penance . There is no free forgiveness even from God the all loving .