Right to bear harms Good or Bad?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by jonas18, Jan 10, 2011.

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Would it be a good idea to repeal Right To Bear Arms?

  1. yes

    9 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. No

    18 vote(s)
    66.7%
  1. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #61
    So 86.67% say no to "repeal" and you think that means 87% want "repeal". Have you figured out what you are missing yet? Or do we need to break it down further.
     
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    #62
    Helvetti. Exactly 2 people said Yes it should be repealed (no doubt one of which is you). Here's a picture if you're having a hard time reading the words. You reversed the results, but despite being too dumb to read a poll you wanna advise the worlds greatest superpower on constitutional issues?

    BTW - Even if the poll said what you think, why would the US consider advice on governance from a random US-hating forum troll in India who probably doesn't even shave yet? Nobody gives a flying rats-rear if you think our constitution is an "outdated" piece of paper". Lotsa luck, junior.:)
     

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    LOL looks like stupidity is contagious, need to see a doc and stay away from you people ;)
     
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    #64
    We accept your admission of stupidity.;)
     
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    #65
    Oddly, you appear to be the only one incapable of reading a poll with only two numbers and figuring out which is bigger. Go figure.
     
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    #66
    For those too stupid to follow a thread -

    The Constitution prescribes a well Regulated......; And is the criteria that right wing zelotts are incapable in reaching as a mature understanding for the wisdom of a documents goals for a society than grandizement and self pleasure of singular purpose.

    So your conclusion as to the other yes vote slams in your face the despicable event as the product of your own intentions.
     
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    #67
    Just noticed there are now 4 yes votes - -

    For those smarta**** above, looks like not everyone is so swayed by deceits embellishing the Constitution for their personal gain.

    Have you learned to read yet "Cowboy"
     
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    #68
    Wow. You're the first US constitutional scholar I've met who used google translate to write his opinions. Seriously, where are you from really. You can't possibly be here, or you'd realize overturning ten percent of the bill of rights is not happening.
     
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    #69
    On the contrary, there are those of us who understand and support the right to bear arms as implicit for a free society.

    The Regulation of - - (as in sanity in the pursuit of hapieness.....)
     
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    The word you're looking for is Happiness. Guess they didn't have spelling on the bar exam?
     
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    #71
    Americans remain split on the issue of gun control, according to a new CBS News/New York Times poll

    A majority support the principle of right to bear arms

    46 percent of Americans want gun laws to be made stricter, but the majority don't.

    54 percent of Americans living in gun-owning households favor a ban on assault weapons.

    63 percent (including 58 percent of gun-owning households) favor a ban on high capacity clips that can hold dozens of rounds like the ones used in the Arizona shootings.
     
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    #72
    Glad to see that number has trended down from 59% in 1994.
     
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    #73
    To outlaw firearms, as they are in my country, is to create a society where only criminals obtain them and therefore law abiding citizens no longer have the right to equally defend themselves. The minority of trouble makers thus control the majority. Backwards logic.

    There are gangs in various cities in England which manage to obtain firearms. How would one defend themselves if a gang member were to threaten them with one? Even pepper spray is outlawed for Christ's sake! This country...

    The beauty of America is that regardless of how large the majority may be supporting gun-control, it shall not be infringed due to Republicanism - or at least in theory. You lucky, lucky people.

    Those of you with a hard time understanding how freedom, firearms and reduced crime are related, read about Switzerland; a country with one of the lowest crime rates in the world and with the most liberal - in the original sense - gun attitudes.
     
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    #74
    Whats wrong with Tasers? If police can use them then surely normal people can too. And it doesn't kill but solves the purpose of defending. Once you pull out or flaunt a gun you have to be ready to pull the trigger and face repercussions (legal and otherwise) or be ready to have it pulled from your hands and used against you. Atleast with Tasers there are no serious repercussions if you use them. Finally its strange that Tasers are outlawed in many US states/cities but gun ownership is a "right".
     
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    #75
    I don't think you understand how generally ridiculously weak people are outside of the Americas. We cannot defend ourselves with ANYTHING and the vast majority don't see it as a problem, despite murders and the sort happening every day as in every country. Instead the ridiculous fear driven myth: "If people are allowed guns it would be chaos! Everyone would be shooting each other" dribbles out of mouths across the country, as though scripted.

    The situation is a shining example of how a democracy is inherently oppressive.

    Like I said above, I wouldn't be able to buy my girlfriend pepper-spray never mind a taser, and there was a time recently when it was needed because I wasn't there. It's infuriating.

    By the way tasers have a higher fatality rate than you'd expect. I'm sure I read somewhere that pen knives are to be banned too. It's getting to the point where government is forcing us to just stay inside with its passive aggressive legislation.

    You're right about police using them here. How unbalanced a society is that, seriously.
     
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    #76
    Taser can be improved if the market for it increases, if it is preferred over guns I'm sure companies will invest into R&D to develop better ones with even less fatality rate and multiple shots. Such a thing used for defense rather than for sole purpose of killing should be legal for all sane adults or even adolescents to carry.

    Maybe guns should be legal on airplanes too?
     
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    #77
    I'd support guns to be legal on aeroplanes or at least for the crew. It would have prevented 9/11. It's a complicated issue though as planes cross many different nations' boundaries. I don't see why they should be outlawed for internal flights across America.
     
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    #78
    And how many 9/11's could it have created?
     
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    #79
    None. Who would try and hijack a plane with a potential of hundreds of armed passengers? Even if they tried it would be unsuccessful. You're perpetuating the myth I posted earlier. If someone wanted to hijack a plane they'd do it with or without firearms, as shown on 9/11.

    The only way to end gun crime is to rid the planet of them and since that will never happen our only option is to defend against it. Not create a climate which enables only those with evil intentions to create more devastation than would be possible otherwise.

    Read up on Luby's massacre

    If gun control is rife and a murderer obtains a firearm, goes on to commit killings like the above, only an idiot would campaign for stricter law as it was that which allowed it to happen!

    [video=youtube;M1u0Byq5Qis]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1u0Byq5Qis[/video]

     
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    #80
    You didn't get my point. Do you realize that someone can just blow a few holes in the fuselage with the gun and potentially bring the plane down (I'm not an engineer but its seems logical)? No one needs to hijack a plane to bring it down.

    And no one has still been able to explain to me whats wrong with using Tasers to defend yourself if you need to?
     
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