Pakistan Province governor assasinated by bodyguard for anti-bllasphemy law stance

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    Thousands of Pakistanis have attended the state funeral of assassinated Punjab Governor Salman Taseer. Mr Taseer, one of Pakistan's most outspoken liberal politicians, was shot on Tuesday by a bodyguard angered by his opposition to blasphemy laws.

    Although many have condemned the assassination, some religious leaders have praised the governor's killer.

    The governor - a senior member of the governing Pakistan People's Party (PPP) - had recently angered Islamists by appealing for a Christian woman, sentenced to death for blasphemy, to be pardoned.

    The bodyguard, Malik Mumtaz Hussein Qadri, 26, was showered with rose petals by supporters as he appeared in court in Islamabad on Wednesday.

    The assassination has drawn condemnation from around the world. However, some Pakistani religious leaders have praised the governor's killer and called for a boycott of the ceremonies in Lahore, says the BBC's Orla Guerin in Islamabad.

    One small religious party, the Jamaat-e-Ahl-e-Sunnat Pakistan, warned that anyone who expressed grief over the assassination could suffer the same fate.

    "No Muslim should attend the funeral or even try to pray for Salman Taseer or even express any kind of regret or sympathy over the incident," the party said in a statement. It said anyone who expressed sympathy over the death of a blasphemer was also committing blasphemy.

    The Pakistani Taliban - Tehreek Taliban - also said anyone offering prayers for Mr Taseer would be guilty of blasphemy. Speaking to the BBC, its deputy chief, Ehsanullah Ehsan, also warned religious scholars not to change their stance on blasphemy laws.

    The bodyguard Malik Mumtaz Hussein Qadri was detained immediately after the shooting at Kohsar Market in Islamabad. He confessed to the murder, said Pakistan's interior minister, Rehman Malik.

    At his first court appearance in Islamabad the guard was showered with rose petals by sympathetic lawyers and hugged by other supporters.
    Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12116764
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    I am actually shocked by he reaction of the Pakistani masses, many of whom seem to support this murder. Apparently a facebook fan page created for the killer garnered more than 2000 fans before it was taken down by facebook. Below is one among the many moronic comments at the news of this murder from Pakistanis:

    I think Salman Taseer got what he deserved. Well done Mumtaz Qadri. I salute you. Proud of being a Muslim and Proud of being Pakistani. If killing a bad mouthed Kafir or struggling for the dignity of our beloved Prophet S.A.W.W makes us Extremists and Fundamentalists then YES, I am proud to say I am also one. - Usman Ullah Khan
    Comment originally appeared at http://www.thenews.com.pk/blog/blog_details.asp?id=1033&page=3
     
    sar420, Jan 5, 2011 IP
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    they same old story with this nutjobs. as soon as someone with some brains and balls dares to propose something reasonable they take care of him/her. what a bright future ahead of them
     
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    I think extremists are enemy of democracy and democracy is enemy of them. that guy elected by people and they know that can't trust polls but bullet.
    it's return to Pakistani people who decide to choose which one. its a dilemma I guess, Pakistani people are so religious but in other hand rather democracy and have good political leaders.
     
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    Yes Babak. Religion mixed with politics is disruptive. Add to that intolerance towards other religions and sects taught in school syllabus and it becomes an explosive combination.
     
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    Sikhs did the same with Indira Gandhi, its a problem with ALL religions. Religions are a curse to civil society.
     
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    Ya and you know that because the modern world is based on literacy , something taught in oh ya a lot of religious places . But ignore that literacy programs or charity is a curse . Let those in need die of hunger of disease , they are not super intelligent atheist like you right ? They deserve to be illiterate because they have a religion .
     
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    So people are charitable only because of religion? :confused:
     
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    Christianity emboldens it's followers to be charitable , and a lot of them listen .
     
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    That is the first correlation I made when I got to know of this murder.


    Not just Christianity, but almost all religions stress on charity. In Sikhism, Gurudwaras have a "langar" or communal kitchen where people are fed daily free of cost.

     
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    The fight for the soul of Islam continues....

    These are the same Muslims that give that bullshit about killing one person is like killing all of humanity. Anybody with eyes sees that Muslims (as in any Muslim ruled lands) are intolerant of everyone else - they have codified it in their laws - and that it is just a matter of time until they try to tell everybody how to live and what to believe under threat of death.
     
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    yeah charity is the best way to show they are righteous and collect easy money!


    yeah it mentioned in Quran but they don't tell you whole verses and it's purpose!
     
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    You certainly don't listen. There's not one true Christian on this forum who'd follow a simple and direct instruction from the bible.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1913461

    BTW you guys are saying people are charitable because of religion and if they didn't fear god and weren't bribed with eternity in heaven they'd not do good deeds?

    1) No, people are charitable because they are compassionate and doing good deeds gives them pleasure. Fear of god has nothing to with it, religion shouldn't get credit for it.
    2) Yes, Sikhs and Christians do charity because their holy books say so. It bribes them with heaven and if not for that and their religion they not do good deeds. Religion should get all the credit for that.

    1 or 2?
     
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    The only instructions in the Bible are the 10 commandments and the golden rule . The rest are just teachings and examples .

    As for Heaven being a bribe lol . It's more of a payday . How would you like to work (well steal in your case) for free . Or you consider your checks bribes from Google ?
     
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    Only a pathetic religious hypocrite would try and get out of answering questions. I put it again incase you have some shame:

    You are saying people are charitable because of religion and if they didn't fear god and weren't bribed with eternity in heaven they'd not do good deeds?

    1) No, people are charitable because they are compassionate and doing good deeds gives them pleasure. Fear of god has nothing to with it, religion shouldn't get credit for it.
    2) Yes, Sikhs and Christians do charity because their holy books say so. It bribes them with heaven and if not for that and their religion they not do good deeds. Religion should get all the credit for that.

    1 or 2?
     
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    The answer has already been given :D
     
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    Your reluctance to give a direct answer just proves my point without the need to say anything more and exposes you for what you are. Good Morning, thanks for owned for the 4th time in 2 days. Have a nice day.
     
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    You asked two trick questions which if answered your way will only lead to you being right . So congratz , you're neural net is incapable of formulating a superior form of trolling .
     
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    People are charitable for various reasons best known to them. Some people's motivation is religion/spirituality and some people are indeed more compassionate ..and some are compassionate because of spirituality or religion. I don't know why you always want to paint religious people as deranged and ready to indulge in violence at the drop of a hat. Is it because you always feel the need to justify your atheism?

    Helvetti, when you say religion is the cause of violence you wither deliberately or not ignore the other side, that religion is also a great motivation for bringing out the good in people.

    By that logic religion should also not get credit for violence. Its the people who indulge in it who are mentally sick or brainwashed. Not the fault of the religion.

    Religion is not the sole cause of violence and its also not the sole motivation for charity.
     
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