Hi I want to give vps serivce to my friend , but unable to find vps license for windows 2008. other are providing license in $12/mo or $15/mo , how can i purchase them ? I own dedicated server in india my provider says they dont sell vps so they dont have it. I think this question is related to server so i m posting here , sorry if i posted on wrong section Thanks
You know, I would consider richammonds advice. For Windows 2k3 and 2k8 I have not seen much stability for domain controllers. For IIS it seems to work okay but I would not do it myself and I would not recommend Windows in a virtual environment that is in production. That is just my opinion though. I have had bad experiences with Windows on Xen and Vmware so I just stay away from virtualized MSWIN. Dedicated is another story though.
There's no such thing as a "VPS licence". The number of VPSs you can install on hardware depends upon the host operating system version of windows. I'd have to check the precise licensing rules but it's something like this... Server Standard 2008 - 1 VPS per Standard licence per CPU. Want 2 VPS on a server host using server 2008 standard requires 2 licences Server Enterprise 2008 - 4VPS per Enterprise licence per CPU. If you wanted to install 5 VPSs you'd need to purchase 2 CPU licences per CPU. Server Datacenter 2008 - Unlimited VPSs per licence but you must purchase 2 CPU licences (min) for datacentre host. Virtualization is provided by the Hyper-V module that can be installed as part of the 2008 operating system. MS do sell a version of 2008 without the Hyper-V choice. Server 2008 R2 is the best version of Hyper-v (Hyper-V R2). You can only get windows licenses for hosting purposes from a Service Providers Licences Agreement (SPLA) with Microsoft. You cannot use purchased licences to host web sites. Don't listen to people who say Windows doesn't work on virtualized platforms - it's not true. We have hundred of VPSs running on 2008 R2 hosts using Hyper-V R2, with Windows 2008 and Windows 2003 guests running (both 32-bit and 64-bit) and they run perfectly. Over the years we've moved most of our hosting platform (email servers, DNS serves, FTP servers, MS SQL 2008 DB Server, etc) to Hyper-V because it is stable, fast, reliabile, and easy to work with.
If you have Win2k8 working well under Xen I would like to see your config for the vms. I have had nothing but headache after headache.
We have experimented with Xen and managed to get Server 2003 to work nicely but we never tried 2008. Our biggest problem with Xen was hardware support (despite using "approved" hardware) it was horrible to install - it may have changed since then as it was a couple of years ago. Microsoft's Hyper-V virtualization platfrom is based on the Xen implementation - so they're probably not that far apart - and it works perfectly for all flavours of Windows Server OSs that we've thrown at it. We still have a few VMWare hosts, although we're phasing them out, but they have run 32-bit 2003 and 2008 fine (never tried 64-bit on that platform). I guess your experience comes from a different platform. We use server 2008 64-bit as the host server running Hyper-V either as a full install or with the hypervisor only. It's designed for Windows Server OSs, so it all runs nicely together. Add in System Center - particularly Virtual Machine Manager and Ops Manager - and it becomes a very nice management & control system too for multilple hosts and guests.
Hi Guys Only RonBrown understood my question. I have no problem with windows server. @ RonBrown how dedicated server provider install windows in $40 etc on dedicated box ? & VPS in $20 etc ? I have dedicated box can i use vmplayer to make use of 1 vps license ? if yes then let me know the step Thanks
I'm not sure. They could be installing the Web version of Windows server as opposed to Standard, Enterprise, or Datacentre version. Even then it does cost although it's only around $10 per month for the web version. $40 for any hardware is going to be pretty low powered (unless they get their hardware for free), and when you add in a Windows licence, bandwidth, rack space, power, and support there is no profit to be made at these kind of prices. I suppose they could be recycling some old hardware a customer previously paid for but at $40 for a Windows server I'd rather not supply it as I'd be sure to lose money on it. Very large providers might pay less for their licences but not that much less. If I had to guess I'd say they weren't paying for their Windows licence. Not quite so strange. Still not a lot of money with very little profit potential for the host, but with a host machine containing a lot of ram and the datacentre licence, they could be stuffing their host server with a lot of VPSs. RAM is the limiting factor in Hyper-V as once it is assigned to a guest it cannot be assigned to anyone else. Depends on the licence of the host server. Why would you want to use VMPlayer (a desktop virtualisation platform) when MS have their own virtualization platform available? Let me know what version of Windows you are running on the host server and I may be able to help.
Hi No its not web edition Full Enterprise 64 Bit. I just found 5 min ago one indian comapney giving windows 2008 in $6 for vps. I try to get external incense may be. I m familiar with vmware only however i talked to my DC Something is required in Bios to enable hypervm etc at present i dont want to reboot my server & make my site down because i go lots of indian users on morning & USA in nights There are lots of small provider are they investing $3000 for datacenter edition & selling vps ?? in $10 i wonder how they can earn from it help me please Thanks
Server 2000, 2003 or 2008? If you can't be precise we can't help as they each have different answers. If it's a dedicated server then changing the bios setting should be easy. The BIOS change enables the virtualization properties of the CPU. You'll need to if BIOS support isn't enabled. Not all servers are so busy 24/7 that they couldn't stand a reboot at some time during the quietest hours. What happens when you install an update that requires a reboot? You must reboot your server at some point in time. If you're server runs older hardware it may not have that option in the BIOS. Because you can't purchase a Datacentre Edition then use that licence to host from it. The ONLY way to legitimately provide hosting on a Windows operating system is through an SPLA (Service Providers Licence Agreement) that you sign with Microsoft and you pay for the licence either monthly or yearly.
Hi Thanks For Reply I want to use windows 2008. when i tried to use virtualization in my dedicated box 2-3 months it say that u need to enable xxx setting from bios ( currently i dont remember it) no reboots from last 9 months approx because no update require reboot till now. Thanks
The chances are Server 2008 will have Hyper-V available (although there are versions of Windows sold where Hyper-V is not available - then you are snookered). Reboot your server and open up the BIOS on reboot. In the "Advanced" area run through the menu and you should find a setting for "virtualization support". It will have different names depending upon the BIOS manufacturer. Just enable it. When Windows boots up, click on the Server Manager and select "Roles" and you will be able to select the "Hyper-V" role. Just follow the default settings and it will install the Hyper-V role for you plus any supporting roles that need to be installed. You don't need the installation disk as Server 2008 installs all the necessary components for the various roles the server will run. That's all you need. You may need an installation disk to install a Server OS on any Hyper-V guest you use, or if you are lucky enough you mind find someone who had made a VHD file available for download. You will be able to run up to 4 separate VPS Guests on the Enterprise version without compromising the licence agreement.