Question for Christians

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  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #161

    You have placed Mohammad as being necessary between yourself and the Creator no different than the Christians with their Prophet where at least the Christians have made up the Trinity realizing their mistake, the one you have yet to understand....living in the Garden is not the same as learning from the Garden.
     
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  2. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #162
    In the name of Allaah The Beneficent the Most Merciful

    To proceed:

    You call me a retard, stupid, compare me with some one with a low IQ, you say religion is BS, all this shows you are an insincere and immoral being with no manners, I pity you. And Unfortunately for you history is on our side, no matter what you read on Wikipedia, so you can say whatever you wish but your statements are nothing but balderdash.

    Do you have any evidence that there is "no God", the answer is no, it's impossible for you to know this with your limited knowledge, atheism is a faith with no proof.

    Ironic.

    No we do not place Muhammed (peace be upon him) between us and Allaah, atleast not in the sense that Christians do, which is to worship God through worshipping Jesus, this is polytheism, we do not worship Muhammed (peace be upon him).

    Rather Muhammed (peace be upon him), is an example for us, he practiced what was revealed to him, his beliefs and actions were recorded for us to emulate, this only makes sense.

    And I don't see anything wrong with this route of transmission:

    Allaah >> Angel Gabriel >> Muhammed >> Mankind

    It is a perfectly acceptable way for God to send us revelation.

    Why God has been sending us Prophets and Messengers since the beginning of life on earth is not something you can question, this is what God willed, to say it had to be in another way you are appointing yourself as an adviser to God, and we both know that is blasphemy.

    I guess what you want is to see God, the truth is that you cannot see God, because you are too weak.

    Moses(peace be upon him) asked to see Allaah the Most High, and this is what happened:

    "And when Mûsa (Moses) came at the time and place appointed by Us, and his Lord (Allâh) spoke to him, he said: "O my Lord! Show me (Yourself), that I may look upon You." Allâh said: "You cannot see Me, but look upon the mountain; if it stands still in its place then you shall see Me." So when his Lord appeared to the mountain[], He made it collapse to dust, and Mûsa (Moses) fell down unconscious. Then when he recovered his senses he said: "Glory be to You, I turn to You in repentance and I am the first of the believers." (Qur'aan 7:143)

    "(Allâh) said: "O Mûsa (Moses) I have chosen you above men by My Messages, and by My speaking (to you). So hold that which I have given you and be of the grateful." (Qur'aan 7:144)

    So it is not that God cannot reveal himself to us, but it has to do with man being too weak to see God, as you can see from the above verses the mountain collapsed into dust because Allaah revealed himself, and in fact Allaah All-Mighty revealed only something the size of the tip of a little finger:

    In his Musnad Imam Ahmad recorded from Anas bin Malik that the Prophet (peace be upon) him said about Allah's saying; "And when his Lord appeared to the mountain" (Like this) then he held out the tip of his little finger.

    Allaah is Great:

    It is narrated from Ibn Abbas (May Allah be pleased with him) that-he said:

    "The seven heavens and seven earths will be as small in Allah's Hand as a seed of mustard in one of your hands."

    So instead of questioning God, be grateful for whatever you have been given.

    :) :)

    SP
     
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  3. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #163
    I don´t have any evidence that tooth fairy, unicorn,..... don´t exist but do you think I should believe in them?
    The most important thing is what kind of evidence do you have that God exists?
     
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    #164
    Just a question ?

    Is it true that Mohammed has 9 wives ?
    Upon having 9 wives is that moral ?
    Did Mohammad had Jewish, Christian and Atheist wives ?

    Thanks
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

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    #165
    Studying the Quran can only result in even stronger condemnations of Islam.

    The Cow, Verse 216: Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

    Women, Verse 74: Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

    Women, Verse 89: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

    Women, Verse 104: Relent not in pursuit of the enemy. If ye are suffering, lo! they suffer even as ye suffer and ye hope from Allah that for which they cannot hope. Allah is ever Knower, Wise.

    The Spoils of War, Verse 12:: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.​
     
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  6. IsraeI

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    #166
    You forgot to add my favourite; the flying spaghetti monster.

    Anyway, this are irrelevant, since they did not claim to be God.

    If someone asks you if unicorns exist, just say "I don't know".

    The evidence that God exists is creation, God is opposite to creation: The creator.

    :)

    SP


    :) :)
     
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  7. Breeze Wood

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    #167
    The Edenist are not weak as Islamics - The Garden is the physical presence of the Creator, as you are told but fail to understand.


    God did not collapse the Mountain - Whoever Moses is he did not quite get the message, fell down unconscious? - what he was meant to realize was the Garden as the vision of God but like written text the unconscious is inside oneself where as remittance is the return to the Outerworld of the Everlasting, is a vision outside oneself as seeing the mountain and not oneself.
     
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  8. IsraeI

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    #168
    It's called polygamy, it's nothing new.

    Old testament:

    And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. 1 Kings 11:3

    New testament:

    Jesus said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

    This means the laws (like polygamy) are permissable for Christians.

    Ask yourself if God permits something who can say it is immoral? nobody.

    God is the All-Wise, and if you see the wisdom behind polygamy, you will find that it is a good thing, because there are more women in the world, you want all those women to be single? if you think so then you are the one who is immoral.

    Another misconception exists, which is that polygamy allows men to abuse women, which is wrong because Allaah the Almighty said that:

    "And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan­ girls, then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one" Qur'aan 4:3

    It's clear that in Islaam it's NOT permissable to do polygamy if you cant be just to your wives.

    People just like to rant about polygamy because the status quo is that is wrong.

    :)

    SP
     
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  9. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #169
    What is wrong with having 9 wives? More the merrier. Awhile back I had 8 for one weekend and it was BEAUTIFUL.
     
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  10. ChaosTrivia

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    #170
    Question for Muslims:
    You claim that: Mohammed did die, he was a human, and a "prophet" who "revealed the words of Allah". right?
    So why in many barbaric Muslim countries, "insulting" the prophet is punishable by death? How can one insult a dead person?

    Is this one of many contradictions or is there some explanation to it?
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

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    #171
    So "marrying" a six year old girl, molesting her for three years, and then raping her at the age of nine is all good?
     
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  12. IsraeI

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    #172
    I don't know what kind of world you live in, but in mine you can insult someone who is absent, be he/she dead or just not in the same room.

    There are no contradictions in Islaam as you claim, you don't speak Arabic to find contradictions, any linguist knows that when you translate from one language to another, quality of the text is lost, thus at certain places there appear to be contradictions, but there are non.

    Ofcourse you believe in "freedom" and allow all kinds of people to be insulted 24/7 with no punishment, you also monetize this behavior, from painters to comedy shows, to the front page of the newspaper, all in the name of freedom, eventually this only leads to a society which is divided, each in their corner insulting one another.

    :):):)

    SP
     
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    #173
    If Muhammad wasn't such a low-self-esteem wussy boy, he wouldn't need you to protect him from "words."

    It constantly seems like you have never actually read the Quran.

    We consider our society where people talk about issues superior to your society where people simply murder each other.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #174
    LOL. :D

    What that makes you and your friends that are always crying a river and running to moderators to protect you? :rolleyes:
     
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  15. IsraeI

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    #175
    Will.Spencer:

    This message is hidden because Will.Spencer is on your ignore list.
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    Save your time, you know very well you are on ignore list, don't think because I'm not replying to you, means you have owned me or something (lol).

    Go do your nails or something, save your time.

    :)

    SP
     
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    #176
    The idea behind this thread is simple :

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    #177
    Who ever said Islam is violent is just jealous....

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  18. IsraeI

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    #178
    It seems the trolls have arrived.

    :D

    SP
     
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    #179
    Says the one who's terrified of talking .
     
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    #180
    His handler told him to shut his ears to the lies of the west, so he is living under self imposed censorship. He probably edited out large portions of his own schoolbooks as well. We are dealing with a genius here.
     
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