War coming ???

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by olgada, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. webcobra

    webcobra Peon

    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #61
    I hear that there would most likely do so. In the Army, my brother is in the Army and he just got back, says that there are gossip and saying that yeah, this can spark a war. Another one.
     
    webcobra, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #62
    The American economy and market is too big to sink without effecting other economies. Also don´t forget that American banks practically robbed European banks by fooling them to buy worthless bonds that was backed by American mortgages. Once European banks started to collapse because they lost their money in the robbery, they started to take the rest of economy down with them. The less involvement a economy of country had with American banks, the better they survived as you can see it in Asia.
     
    gworld, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  3. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    78
    #63
    read this, it could help you!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932010
     
    babak44, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  4. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,016
    Likes Received:
    237
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    180
    #64
    Wikipedia is not blocked in Iran?
     
    Obamanation, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #65
    Er, in many cases it was the other way around. Turn about is fair play.

    EU invented a new currency so as to wipe clean any debt or false promise it made with regard to its monetary value. So now we've got a socialist economy comprised of most of Europe that is in a huge state of financial collapse and decay. All this ushered in not by America, but a socialist theme rather that continues to pay people not to work and allowed people to continue to receive money after they stopped not working and retired from, not working.

    I will say that Canada seems to have been unaffected by the economic collapse. Of course with the support and defensive shield of America and a small population with open borders, its no wonder there's a boom. And speaking of mortgages and buying debt. America and American banks have never duped anyone into buying their worthless assets. Canadian banks are buying up defunct American banks like they are going out of style. They just bought another one locally here. Then proceeded to raise their goofy looking pot leaf of a flag in front of it.

    The reason? Canada sees value in American debt because its backed by the good faith (yeah, that still exists) of the American people. There are numerous other obvious advantages that could take all day to explain.

    No one's fooled anyone into buying anything GW. Greedy investors and people who have the economic wit of a 2 year old have simply hedged their bets on the hopes of flipping bad debt.
     
    Mia, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  6. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

    Messages:
    6,095
    Likes Received:
    103
    Best Answers:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    240
    #66
    I think babak is using Tor .
     
    ApocalypseXL, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  7. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    78
    #67
    not yet, just last week its pictures blocked that from three days ago its pictures back again!

    what is Tor, is it anti filter?
    also DP isn't filter in Iran.
     
    babak44, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  8. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

    Messages:
    6,095
    Likes Received:
    103
    Best Answers:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    240
    #68
    Kind of but it has terrible speed (10-20 kbps )and you can get banned on many places for using it (prolly on DP as well)
     
    ApocalypseXL, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  9. babak44

    babak44 Active Member

    Messages:
    1,101
    Likes Received:
    7
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    78
    #69
    with connection we have here, should forget it.
     
    babak44, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #70
    I love it when people link to pages that they don´t understand, in order to pretend that they are smart. :D
    Can you tell us which part of that page contradicts what I posted? In a way I understand your problem because most likely you don´t know the meaning of more than 50% of words in that page. ;)

    LOL. The usual mia BS, everything wrong in the world is the fault of Carter, EU and Socialism. :rolleyes:
    Read the link babak posted, you might learn something but considering your record, you most likely will not.
     
    gworld, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #71
    I don't recall mentioning Carter.
    Your an odd little boy.
     
    Mia, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  12. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

    Messages:
    4,256
    Likes Received:
    405
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    290
    #72
    Your fault MIA. Consider the audience. GW doesnt like anything that doesn't reinforce his preconceived prejudices.

    Expecting him to assimilate facts is more than optimistic... might as well try teaching your dog to read music.
     
    robjones, Dec 29, 2010 IP
  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #73
    Ok, you forget to mention poor Carter but still posted your usual rant about EU and Socialism; two out of three is not bad. We just need to forget that your post was totally irrelevant to the discussion. :rolleyes::D
     
    gworld, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  14. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #74
    Carter was not relevant to the topic at hand. Kinda like your posts here ;)
     
    Mia, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  15. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #75
    Neither rest of your post, read the link that babak posted, you might learn something but we shouldn´t hold our breath. ;):D
     
    gworld, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  16. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #76
    Are you referring to that wiki link? If you are, lord help you... you really don't want me to go into that one.
     
    Mia, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  17. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #77
    Why? Did you go and edit the page that it was Carter, EU and Socialism fault that U.S. economy collapsed? After all this kind of behavior is quite expected from some one like you who runs around to different forum section to give anonymous red rep. :rolleyes::D
     
    gworld, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #78
    No, I just found the following interesting:

    That's a quote from Bob Ivry back in September 24, 2008, who's quoting Joshua Rosner who said "It's not a liquidity problem, it's a valuation problem.''

    Read the article and the quotes. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&refer=home&sid=aGT_xTYzbbQE

    Let me try this again. The wiki article (which btw, you pointed out was easy to edit) starts out by saying:

    "The financial crisis of 2007–2010 was triggered by a liquidity shortfall in the United States banking system."

    Yet the article quoted, which quotes someone quoting someone else (if you follow) says it was a "VALUATION" problem.. Or more importantly, the over valuation of assets that led to a liquidity shortfall. It was not the liquidity shortfall, but rather the inflated values the led to the problem.

    If you really want to delve into what created those inflated valuations, all you have to do is look at the primary lending institutions which intentionally over inflated the value of real estate under the direction of people like (that guy you mentioned) Carter, Clinton, CRA, Fannie, Freddie, Barney and his bed buddy - to name a few.

    Julian. Anyone with basic typing skills, a spell checker and creative imagination can write a Wikipedia article. Cite a few sources, throw in some creative license and voila; a new interpretation of reality is born.

    90% of the articles in wiki are opinion backed up with sources that make it appear to be fact. That is until you actually start looking at the sources.

    Did you want me to move to source two? Or have you had enough.



    If I give you red rep, I'll be sure to let you know why.
    Nothing I do is anonymous.
    If it were, I'd not post my full name and contact to everything I write.
    Not all of us hide in mommys house and run around anonymously posting like you.
     
    Mia, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  19. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

    Messages:
    11,324
    Likes Received:
    615
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #79
    Good that you have learned to copy & paste but if you understood what you posted, you could see that it supports my post and proves that your post was worthless rant.
     
    gworld, Dec 30, 2010 IP
  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

    Messages:
    23,694
    Likes Received:
    1,167
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    440
    #80
    Perhaps you'd care to show everyone what I copy/pasted? Aside from a link citing my source?

    Its nice to see the lack of response we get from you when independent thinkers take you to task.

    Obviously I've made my point. No sense in reiterating.
     
    Mia, Dec 30, 2010 IP