Can Google back links be considered as the most themed links?

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by aramyus, Oct 1, 2006.

  1. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #21
    Not that I know of. BUT ;) don't forget that yahoo bought alltheweb and altavista, as well as a couple of others. :D
     
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    #22
    google does not list any of my backlinks.. its been over 6 months now... tsk tsk
     
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  3. Old Welsh Guy

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    #23
    Furion, READ THE THREAD ;)
     
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  4. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #24
    If DP is going to make that a requirement for posting replies to threads, a lot of members are never going to get a chance to post. :D
     
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  5. banless

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    #25
    I will only say this, if you want google to show your backlinks then you need to chose them more wisely. Just because yahoo and msn show x amount of backlinks this means nothing to google, there system is totally different and therefore you need to use a certain stragey in order to make that happen.
     
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  6. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #26
    Strategy has little to do with it, banless. Google has shown only a small and seemingly random sample of links with their link: query for a long time now. This is intentional and there is no indication that it will change in the future. To put it bluntly, Google does not particularly want to encourage webmasters' interest in backlinks.
     
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  7. banless

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    #27
    There is a strategy that needs to be used. However if I told you what that was, one you would not believe me, and two all google would do is turn around and change it. If I chose to do so I could get as many google backlinks as I want and have done so with my directory as well some of my other sites. And could do the same for any client if they paid the right amount of money.
     
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  8. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #28
    You're missing the point, banless. It's not that Google doesn't KNOW about your backlinks. It's that they are not going to REPORT to you how many they know about.
     
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  9. banless

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    #29
    They will report the links, you just have to make them do so, the trick is getting them to do it, once you learn how to do that you will also learn the secret to getting page rank.
     
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  10. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #30
    Oh, pullease... :rolleyes:

    There's no big mystery about how to get PageRank. And there's no big mystery about the limitations in the link: query. This is old news.
     
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  11. banless

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    #31
    If what you saying is true then why is everyone trying to figure out how to get more google backlinks to show up. Seems strange how one guy stated that google still has not shown any google backlinks for his site in 6 months. but yahoo and msn seem to show some.

    It is funny how all the guys with the most post think they have all of the right anwers. No offence. Sometimes the answer is right in front of your face but your eyes just do not want to see it.
     
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  12. Old Welsh Guy

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    #32
    What an absolute load of twaddle. There IS no secret to getting page rank. The patent and technology for page rank is public bloody knowledge at the USPO :rolleyes: Why do some people feel the need to make posts that make them a 'special guru' Pay me the money and I will show you LOL. :D

    Is it because of your 'special knowledge' that Google is showing just above half the backlinks to your own site that Yahoo is?

    Matt Cutts said clearly that Google shows a selection of backlinks and no longer shows all the links. When pushed he DID say that they show a selection of 'relevant' links. Now I was stood right in front of the guy when he said that, but you just go on and post what you want to!

    I just think that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, and Ok so you have a few deep links skewing the figures a little, but Google is NOT showing all the links that Yahoo have to your site. You CAN influence which links are shown, but you can NOT get Google to show all your links, BECAUSE THEY DON'T ;)
     
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  13. Phynder

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    #33
    Okay - put up or shut up. How much $$$ does your client need to pay you for this "service"?
     
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  14. Old Welsh Guy

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    #34
    There MIGHT be some confusion here as to what the question is. WE are talking about backlinks displayed, while banless is talking about links! Links, and links reported by Google are different things entirely.
     
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    #35
    Forget what yahoo and msn are doing, those engines have nothing to do with google backlinks which I believe that is what this thread is about. I have never said that I was some form of guru, but what I know I know for a fact. And would be willing to challenge anyone on this forum to a google backlink contest. But just like when I made the challenge for a page rank contest no one steped to the plate.

    I can back up everything I say regarding this matter and not afraid to eat my words if I was to lose.

    Phynder I would be glad to give you a price if I thought you were serious about having me work for you, but I dought that is the case.

    I'm not trying to agrue with you guys, all I am saying is that there is more than meets the eye when it comes to google backlinks.

    And no offence to matt cutts, but do you really expect me to believe everything that comes out of his month just because he works for google.

    As far as page rank goes I could give dozens of examples on sites that have links on high pr sites but don't have squat to show for it on there own page rank and the links do not even have a no follow on them or anything like that.

    But back on topic. If anyone wants to challenge me in a google backlink contest then step to the plate and I will show you how to get google to show your links, other than that I am not just going sit here and tell everyone how it done.
     
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  16. Old Welsh Guy

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    #36
    Banless, as you say, you are not trying to argue, nor am I. Debate yes, for sure. so how can you say 'forget yahoo and MSn' ? A backlinks is a backlink, what your arguing is simply not possible to control the evaluation of. Google does not show all the known links, like I said, it IS possible to control which links are shown, but it is NOT possible to get google to show all the links it knows about.

    I think we all know that there is more than meets the eye with regard backlinks on Google (at least those that do any sort of testing anyhow).

    I doubt you will get anyone entering into your backlinks contest though, why not post a set of rules however, you never know :)

    It is a good job that not everyone on DP thought like that because if they did, then this place would not be the resource it is!

    Sp there you go then. Lay out the clear rules for this challenge. Lay out how you will measure success and failure in google. You never know, someone might take you up on it.
     
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    #37
    I like your style OWG, and I agree that no one could get every single link to show up that is just not possible, yet if one is looking for google backlinks then like I said there is a way to do it.

    Give me some time and I will post the google backlink rules for a possible contest, and look forward to seeing who wants to join.
     
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  18. minstrel

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    #38
    Unadulterated used dishwashing fluid... :rolleyes:

    Forget contests and forget paying any money to anyone. As OWG said, the "secret" to PageRank is available to anyone able to read and the reality that Google only displays a selection of the backlinks it know about has been clearly stated numerous times.

    There is no mystery. There is no secret. There is, apparently, an alternate reality that some self-styled Google experts dwell in, but that's pretty much it.
     
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    #39
    Why do you "dought" me? Do you have a service or not?
     
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    #40
    Exactly, it's the same with Pagerank. All of this information is in the public domain, but people still insist on coming up with 'theories' as to why things are more complicated than they really are.

    Google only show a 'selection' of backlinks, but you can be damn sure that they 'know' about all of them - at least those that are on pages that have been indexed.
     
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