www and non www prefixes

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by xsh00tax, Dec 22, 2010.

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    Im fairly new in the game so I just wanted someone to confirm that the practice that I have followed below is all correct.

    I own both the .co.uk and .com for my domain and using godaddy domain manager I created a forwarder without masking from my domain XXXX.co.uk to http://www.XXXX.com. The permanant (301) setting was also chosen.

    My next step was to try to prevent any leakage by placing a 301 redirect on the non www version of my primary domain (.com) linking towards my www version. I did this from my hosting panel in the content tab, selecting the redirects option. I also confirmed both www and non www within webmaster tools and stated on both prefixes settings that the www was my prefered prefix.

    Within my Godaddy control panel my redirect setting were as follows:

    FROM = domain- XXXX.com, path- http://XXXX.com/, redirect- only without www prefix

    TO = prefix- http, domain- www.XXXX.com, path- http://www.XXXX.com/

    EXTRA = type- 301, Content redirect option- match path

    If there are any Godaddy users out there who can understand what I was just going on about then I would love to see if everything is okay and I am preventing leakage or if i have missed something or done something incorrectly. These are the only 301's I have ever done and everything I have learned so far is from a couple of hours of googling. Thanks for putting up with this tedious message. Any support is greatly appreciated. Thank you
     
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    p.s- the domain XXXX.com and XXXX.co.uk was just an example. I did not realise that there was a real XXXX. my real site is placed within my sig
     
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    Will get my bro to message you tomorrow, he is the master at all that type of stuff!

    Speak to you soon bud!
     
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    Where are you located? And what is your intention of pointing one to the other?

    FYI, Google likes it if you make it easier on them in terms of what page to show to what demographic. That being said I would create a cname for your non locale domain and serve the same website on both URLS.

    I am not sure but highly doubt you can do this on your own with godaddy without contacting them first.

    I would suggest you lose godaddy and use hostgator with a cheap VPS and you can go nuts with it without having to contact support every 10 minutes.

    And, what cart is that? Running stuff on a LAMP server is way cheaper monthly than a winpoop machine :) Even if currently stuck with an .asp app you can port that stuff in no time to something faster, cheaper and easier to use.


    NVM... zencart, have used the template.... off topic but I would suggest auto dumping the entire thing into magento, using hostgator vps and going nuts with it. Missing your target SEO wise a bit as well but we can get to that.

    Nigel
     
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    Thank you MyEasyCpa, appreciated. In regards to the previous message, my cart was produced using opensource software, modified of course (php), and i have never used any windows script or application that requires any fee. I have also used hostgater previously as it was reccomended as my first host. My only fee is my hosting fee. For a successful business of over 30 years a fee of less than £10 a month is acceptable. Thank you
     
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    HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently =>
    Connection => close
    Date => Thu, 23 Dec 2010 02:19:04 GMT
    Server => Microsoft-IIS/6.0
    X-Powered-By => ASP.NET
    X-AspNet-Version => 2.0.50727
    Location => http://www.andys-motorcycles.com
    Cache-Control => private
    Content-Length => 0


    Just saying.....

    My point is that forwarding nothing to something does, well nothing. Unless you ran the site on co.uk you are just creating a headache you don't need and wasting your tld.

    Have you looked into google webmaster tools yet and sorted out how to target things? At a glance you are missing a few bits of logic.

    Nigel
     
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    We are a UK company and .co.uk is the domain automaticaly typed by 70% of users when looking for a UK business as it outsources any international traders and since my site ran on my .co.uk for awhile I did not want to waste incoming links., I would be interested in the logic you mentioned.
     
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    https://www.google.com/accounts/Ser...ttps://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/&hl=en

    Your first order of business is to submit your xml sitemap(zencart, which you are using, should spit it out for you) then you submit the sitemap to webmaster tools. Under settings though you have to target the UK, or you will be completely screwed!

    If you have .com tld then you are targeting .com or the US, you are missing an integral part of ranking in the UK. In fact, you cant really target the UK with a .com unless you deal with webmaster tools or months of SEO.

    Nigel
     
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    I do have an xml sitemap with over 6000 url's. As mentioned in my original message I have confirmed and submitted both .com and .co.uk addresses and also geographicaly targeted them within webmaster tools
     
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    All I am trying to do is make sure that any old .co.uk links now point to my .com
     
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    Then as I suspected you are simply forwarding nothing to something. You accomplish nothing by doing this. You want the same site on .co.uk via cname. At least keep everything having the www prefix or you feed all your backlink activities through a useless tld. that is forwarded.

    This way you can get after both serps or tlds in this case. I can forward my entire unused portolio to your .com. It will do nothing ;)

    Make sense?

    \
    No, that is is not what you want to do but you have accomplished that much so I suppose your work is done.

    Nigel
     
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    So if I do not place the 301 on the .co.uk then I wont lose all the old lncoming links that were addressed to the .co.uk
     
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    No, if you are trying to push link juice to a new domain you have to have a 301 in place from .co.uk to .com you just want to make sure your 301 has www or not based on your link building activities.

    I simply provided you with a better solution. I am sorta tired so sorry if I seem testy about it. Just trying to be helpful.
    Given your scenario,you have better options. Rather than 301 a .co.uk you should run then both via the same admin panel using the following methodology http://support.netfirms.com/domains/how-do-i-configure-a-cname-record-for-my-domain

    different host, same method. http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=7970

    not building a rocket here lol...

    this will allow you to work on ranking .com but rule the day on co.uk where shipping is crazy cheaper. Its a tad costly to ship stuff across the pond ;)

    nigel
     
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