Ofc its a personal grudge, I have been attacked, threatened and had false charges made against me, you expect me to suck it up? Though I have morally justifiable reason to do what I said (haven't yet). Do you think one should everything in ones power to stop a 30 year old perv from stealing a girls entire identity and impersonating her? LOLOL you read before posting? Legislative doesn't "let" executive do things on its own. Executive is only responsible for enforcing things passed by the legislative. Your unwillingness to give a straight-foward answer to my question leads me to believe that you are a hypocrite.
No. But, I still think you've gone too far. You've already stated in a prior post that you have contacted the girl on the dating site. I don't see the morally justifiable reason to continue and harass LaceyGirl's relatives. Legally, even IF your version of the story was true, extremely unlikely any "identity theft" charges would be filed. LaceyGirl is a nickname. There are LaceyGirl's all over the net. Typically someone has the first name Lacey, and will affectionately go by LaceyGirl - even though "girl" is not their last name. However, if someone stole a picture of someone else to use on forums without permission, that would be a copyright violation. As far as the "identity theft" charges you've made, we have two versions of the story. You believe she stole the picture, LacyGirl maintains she created that profile herself to make money in her association with that dating site. Source: suggestions and feedback You actually said something that just clicked today. It made me think LaceyGirl may be telling the truth in regards to this particular accusation. You said to Will... Why would anyone try to advertise and drive traffic to a dating profile that they have absolutely nothing to do with(other than allegedly stealing their picture)?
not sure what happened there but guess Rebecca made fair judgment. didn't see any criminal action by lacygirl, hence I respect her/him.
Stealing an image of a girl is just copyright violation? Let me me put this in perspective. I go to you facebook profile and copy a bunch of images, I use them to put up fake dating profiles and use on forum AND pretend to be YOU. Justin has deleted his visitor messages but they used to be people asking him if he was really the girl in the avatar and he would say yes and give out more pictures of that girl. Now Imagine I did the same with you. Now someone from your city finds you at XYZ and assumes you to be Helvetii and then harasses, stalks you or whatever. Now assume further that I sopke stupid shit like "science is a joke", embarrassed myself and angered fundamental muslims all while pretending to be you. Things which could cause you embarrassment and harm. Is this copyright violation or identity theft? Are you OK with this? Would you do anything in your power to stop this?
Going by the nickname LacyGirl is not identity theft as there are virtually hundreds of LaceyGirl's on the net. So, I think the question is, did LaceyGirl use a photo without permission? In your version, a man with username GrAveTzT decided he wanted to be known as a female and decided to change his username to LaceyGirl. He decides to create a sexy profile complete with a hot photo. At this point, it appears you're saying he went to a dating site, and without permission stole the photo of a sexy woman. According to you, he then links to the dating sites picture and profile of the women he is "impersonating" in his DP page. In addition, he is handing out links to the personal dating profile of the woman that he stole this picture from without her permission. Knowing all the time, of course, DP users will be signing up saying, "Oh hey, LacyGirl, ooo I saw you on DP and had to sign up!" Ha Ha, or something like that. Is that right? At least to me, that version doesn't make sense. What LacyGirl said, "I was on the moderation team at wireclub and a few others around the internet in the past. It was a great promotion method to not be married. If it helps when I was working with Wireclub I was only dating." I don't know if that's true, but that version actually makes a little more sense to me. Not sure what the situation is with LaceyGirl, but know that dating websites usually offer a good commission for sign ups. But, the bottom line is, I do not support your threatening to harass her/his family members.
Its a royalty free image, obviously whoever she is, she agreed and got paid for her image being used on the internet. That said, it would still be identity theft if I pretended to be her. Think about that. You didn't answer my questions. I put forward an analogy and asked, "Are you OK with this? Would you do anything in your power to stop this?"
is any authority to persecute lacygirl about it? Copyright is a law and should have regulations. I don't know realy what happened but as you said, she/he steals a person identity illegally. does anyone complain about what Lacygile done? had Lacygirl done it for deceive purpose? are you sure? personally I never accept people who want to cheat others but so far not sure Lacygirl done it. Beside we have to see in what condition used the picture. Lacygirl asked you leave her/him alone, I guess if she/he didn't do any criminal then end it.
When you completely ignored a good portion of what I had said in my post, and instead want to change course to discuss an imaginary Facebook scenario it made me wonder. Why the reluctance to discuss the reality of the situation at hand? p.s. You ignored my last post as well.
Because its already beyond doubt that the account was created and run by a man named Justin Giroux from Manitoba Canada and that he impersonated a girl, used her pictures and gave it out to other pretending to be her. What exactly his modus operandi was is only guesswork. Now that totally sounds like Identity theft to me: Why do I get a feeling that you are only defending laceygirl because you think whoever tired to expose her did so because they didn't believe that a girl can exist on the internet and make money? Anyways he's banned so there's no point to discussing it further.
Just so you know, bolding "beyond doubt" doesn't make your sentence more believable. I would only agree with the first part of the sentence. It's highly likely the DP account was created by Justin. After that, I don't feel everything is beyond a doubt. There is no actual proof of many of these allegations, including that LaceyGirl used a photo without permission. In fact, with LacyGirl advertising the dating link profile it suggests quite the contrary. Not to me. I don't know. Honestly, I don't think that I know anyone that believes that. Okay, but I have the last word.
@Helvetti: Grow up. People are dying because of Assange who you claim is not a criminal. It doesn't lend you a lot of credibility when trying to play lawyer, explaining to us that Lacey-Girl is practicing identity theft by having someone elses photo on their avatar(/cough /cough /cough) and claiming to be single and female. Seems you only care about the crime if it has no victim. Can you really prove he doesn't have persmission to use that photo like you (/cough /cough /cough) do?. Now I have it! Sorry Rebecca.
Tell me exactly who has died, with names and proof that it was because of Assange. BTW 3 people died in Kenya because of you yesterday, you MURDERER!! I don't need to prove anything, I'm making an accusation based on the tons of circumstantial evidence we have, not passing a judgement. I know more law than you, its one of my minors, and you shouldn't talk about credibility. BTW you started replying to the Greek thread 2 hours back, what happened? Takes too much time to come up with more lies and propaganda?
More comedy! followed by: In other words, you need to prove everything, but I need to prove nothing. Its genius! Ooo! Its one of your minors in the undergrad you just started from a third rate educational institution? Would you mind if I solicit you for legal advice?
Lacygirl banned (don't know why) and can't response. so guess we should wait she back although I think this mater isn't worth we discuss about because looks a personal mater.
Thats right, no need to discuss this now. We should move on as what needed to be done has been done. Translation: The Grapes are sour.
Hey! I thought I had the last word. Well, if we're continuing on with this discussion... What I feel, is that you were trying to justify your overly aggressive position by the use of unsupported emotionally charged allegations. For example, in this post: Your sentence is unsubstantiated, and appears to be designed mainly to evoke emotion. If you break it down, "pervert" "stole the identity" of some "innocent girl". The way in which "pervert" is used in this sentence, it almost brings to mind "sexual predator". However, there are absolutely no facts that even hint at supporting the latter definition. The "stole the identity" claim is without proof as well. LaceyGirl says that she created that profile herself. While there is no actual proof, that claim would be supported by the fact that LacyGirl was trying to drive traffic to the dating profile. Even the fact that the profile was created in the same city, weighs in more favorably on LaceyGirl's story. There is no proof that LaceyGirl even used a photo without permission. Lastly, "innocent girl". To me, the phrase of "innocent girl" brings to mind an 8 year old girl out playing ball in the yard. The phrase "innocent girl" could certainly be used to refer to an adult woman advertising to date on the net, but again, I think it was used merely to support a certain image. But, really, my main concern, and what prompted me to get involved in this thread, is the threats to harass LaceyGirl's family. Btw - Hopefully, you've decided not to do this?
For a second I thought my high school English teacher had signed up hear to do some poetry critical analysis. You need to look at things in Chronological Order: 1) LaceyGirl has been picking up fights on stupid things with stupid rants and stupid accusations with us since months. I detested him. 2) He did the same with someone in the Area51 subforum, who exposed him for what he is. 3) I posted it here with my own additions. Till now it was just internet profiles. 4) He shots back with threats, PM's abusive messages to multiple members including Obamanation (who has jumped the fence) and says that its his "brothers account". 5) I further prove that he is lying. Information disclosed till now was only what was necessary to support the claim I made. 6) He makes up some story about how I have been setting him up since an year all over the internet because I promote a site of dinos, he later admitted that this story was made up. 7) This accusation finally ticks me off and I post all the information I had with disregard for anything. I still stand by it and will do it again. Even now no information outside of the public domain was posted. 8) At this point of time it is crystal clear that he impersonated a girl, used her pics without permission, stole her identity by pretending to be her. When Asked to explain this is all we got: Therefore, convinced of facts along with the ROW, I threaten to expose him to people who know her in real life (which is not harassment, if your boyfreind was a perv to stole identity of an innocent girl on the net and someone told you about it, they are harassing you? "Harass" - I think you are too trying to evoke emotional response.) unless he apologizes to us, takes back his claims that I set him up (which I knew were false) and rectify his criminal acts. I don't see anything wrong. 9) He makes a thread complaining about me in SnF, asking me to be banned indirectly and PM spams scores of people some biased shit to get their support. 10) No one believes him and even the admin exposes him with proof that he also committed another crime by threatening to murder the admin. 11) Taken his time he comes up with a cool story, yet again and only YOU buy it. 12) He is banned. End of. So looking at things in perspective I see nothing wrong in what happened and hope its a permanent ban for someone committing multiple criminal acts. I don't know what you agenda is here, and why you support such a person. Only you believe the nonsense he posted, I guess you also believe that I made threatening phone calls to his mom an husband and sent phishing mails. But sorry to break it for you that you are alone. No one believes a guy who changes his story everyday and is a proven pathological liar. Not sure why you are doing this, if you were not such a polite person I wouldn't have taken this kindly either. Is this about the ban on Hijab thread? I thought that was a long time back.