Question for Christians

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by IsraeI, Nov 24, 2010.

  1. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #61
    You're assuming that SP can read . And that assumption is most probably wrong .
     
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  2. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #62
    What has been explained to me "so many times"?
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #63
    It looks like SolarProducts has rebooted and lost all his permanent storage.
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #64
    To tell you the truth, vb people are developing a bot for automated forum posting and they are testing it here. Too sloppy and hardly resembles human input but it does the basic things.
     
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  5. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #65
    Funny how atheists claim they know what Christians believe.

    Christians (depending on which sect) believe in the "trinity", which is 3 Gods in 1: God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Yes, 1+1+1=1.

    Grimm and Cientifcoco (whatever your name is), you should THINK before you post anything. Both of you only make posts that bring no benefit whatsoever. Save us some time and keep your stupidity to yourself.
     
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    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    #66
    Echo, have you tried the Quran?
     
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    omarabid Well-Known Member

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    #67
    was him god or not, how does that bother you?
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #68
    Lot of great stuff in the Quran!
    The Cow, Verse 216: Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

    Women, Verse 74: Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

    Women, Verse 89: They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

    Women, Verse 104:Relent not in pursuit of the enemy. If ye are suffering, lo! they suffer even as ye suffer and ye hope from Allah that for which they cannot hope. Allah is ever Knower, Wise.

    The Spoils of War, Verse 12:: When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.​

    I could go on all day...
     
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  9. Grimm

    Grimm Peon

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    #69
    I was born and raised as a Christian before I chose to be an Atheist so don't act like you know it all. It makes you look more stupid. You don't even fully understand what the trinity is and yet you claim as if you know it more than the Christians do. BS.

    The trinity consists of three people (or substance) and they are one in essence - not one in person. They are not individual gods who form a single god if combined. You've completely misunderstood the meaning of it.

    lol. Have you looked in the mirror lately? THINK before you post anything. :)
     
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  10. Breeze Wood

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    #70
    Warfare being the search in life for remittance.

    Just curious if this quote does not tell you that you must learn what "Allah" knoweth and that the knowledge is not something to be found in the Quran.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #71
    The reference to details like "smite the necks and smite of them each finger" make it clear that Muhammad is not speaking allegorically about some idiotic "search in life for remittance."
     
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  12. Breeze Wood

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    #72
    Out of context the quote speaks for itself and is from the Creator - Muhammad is mortal and with your reference was a Saint in heart as chosen but misguided as other Prophets but for believers a path to the truth is found through their verses.
     
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    #73
    Sure, if the "truth" you are looking for is kidnapping, slavery, rape, child molestation, and murder.
     
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    #74
    A savage time - have learned from this forum the shortcomings of Islam and agree with you on that point entirely.
     
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    #75
    2010 ain't much improved in most of the world.
     
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  16. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #76
    It does not bother me, but is it illegal to ask questions?

    Why some people get emotional outbursts, for me trying to have a discussion with Christians, is a mystery.

    If there's any Christian out there, would you be so kind to tell me who was Jesus(God), asking** for help when he was on the cross, and why? If he is God, then why ask anyone else for help?

    --

    **"eloi eloi lamashabachtani" or "God God why has thou forsaken me", something along those lines.
     
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  17. ApocalypseXL

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    #77
    What the ants told ya that you need to sell those extra kaboom vests before the year is over ?

    Son of God and God Himself . Is that so hard to understand ?
     
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    #78
    Maybe you should be looking at God like water. There are three different states of water (Water, ice and steam). No matter what state it is in, it is still water. Just like God.

    As for Jesus dying on the cross, it would be the same Jesus being the water and you put the water in a container. When he died on the cross, all that happened was the container was broken. Just because the container was broken does not mean the water stops being water.
     
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  19. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #79
    I know what you are trying to say, God is like a bottle of shampoo 3 in 1..sorry but that is not convincing.

    God is NOT created, he is not like his creation and therefore we CANNOT compare God with creating things like water, egg, shampoo etc, this blasphemy.

    Allaah the Most High says:

    "O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allâh aught but the truth. The Messiah 'Iesa (jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allâh and His Word, ("Be!" - and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rûh) created by Him; so believe in Allâh and His Messengers. Say not: "Three (trinity)!" Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allâh is (the only) One Ilâh (God), Glory be to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allâh is All­Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs. (An-Nisa 4:171) "

    God does not have a son, wake up, your own bible does not contain the word "trinity", this is a sign you need to wake up.

    Allaah the Mighty and Majestic says:

    "Indeed the likeness of ‘Eesaa (Jesus) before Allaah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" – and he was." [Aal ‘Imraan: 59]

    If Jesus is God because he has no father, then Adam must be a greater God, because he had no father AND NO mother!?

    The truth is that Jesus is not and has never been God, he was a Muslim, a messenger of Allaah, just like all the great prophets and messengers; David, Job, Solomon, Noah etc.

    His message has been added to, and taken away from for centuries, there is no original bible, Jesus never seen a bible nor a church, Jesus never said I am God,and he has never met a Christian. All these lies came after he left.

    So what was his message? His message is as Allaah the Almighty informs us in the Quran:

    "Truly! Allâh is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path. (Aali Imran 3:51)"

    :)

    SP
     
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    #80
    The Christians understand the meaning of the above quote is why they invented the Trinity when their scribes realized the error in their rendition of the path passing through Jesus.

    But the above quote is little different than those found in the Christian Bible using similar words as Lord and Worship as being the same fallacies promoted by both Islam and Christianity in representing the same religion.
     
    Breeze Wood, Dec 20, 2010 IP