Hello, I am sure many know about it, some even used it... Any comments, suggestions, advise or trial-and-error reports? Thanks in advance, Ruslan
If your site gets banned from Google... well your screwed. It's a better idea to use safe techniques if you have a legitimate site.
Yeah thanks of course for the information, i have legit sites and am a little experienced in all the SEO things.. but just dropped by some black thingie and wanted to know a little more in details about it. Thanks again
I can tell you about something that happened to me about 3 years ago. I ran one of the most successful (visible) real estate portals on the Web. Thinking of ways to benefit my visitors and myself, we implemented a pay-per-click feed from three of the popular providers. By using a half dozen "breadcrumb" links, mod_rewrites and optimized pages for each of the search results (for keywords associated with real estate), I inadvertantly opened a gateway to the feeds' entire advertiser database, creating 250,000+ instant content pages on the fly. Although it wasn't my original intention, traffic, search engine positions and click throughs went through the roof. Before Google banned the site 3 weeks later, it was making approx $4,500 per day. Thus the end to my accidental black hat experience.
The important question I have for blackhat - is it worth it? Are the results worth the potential consequences? Does anyone have any studies or experiments that prove blackhat is more effective?
The people who are into the blackhat stuff are in it because they like the rush and the risk. When it comes to blackhat you need to be one step ahead, because if you are one step behind(ie: 2nd or 3rd hand information that you read on a forum) you are more likely to get banned.
of course its worth it, otherwise people wouldn't do it it really depends what space your playing in. if you're trying to rank for "kangaroo walking sticks" then blackhat seo is pointless. If you are playing in the pills arena then most of the guys you are competing against are blackhat seos, in which case you need to fight fire with fire.
Not necessarily. You need to make sure not to get so wrapped up fighting for position that you become wreckless. Be smart about everything you do. Think about what you are doing from every angle and come up with a plan to do it better than other people that are doing it. It's like a game of chess. The more moves ahead you can think, the better your odds of winning.
pfft, requiring admin verification. Probably be awhile before new users are accepted. Of course, he is blaming Nintendo.
Black hat is good not in moderate use but GO ALL OUT. I've been "moderately" using it and been earning only $1,500 a month with 1 black hat website BUT I haven't been banned for over a year already. If you use it to the extremity you can experience $4,500 a day but I just do not want to risk it anymore. It's proving that blackhat can be long-term if you know how to conceal it
Very interesting.. Do you mean you were basically pulling property listings from 3 providers and having these results wrapped into your own site? Thus pulling every listing from their sites in a short time..? What was the exact TOS/policy you broke if you don't mind me asking?
While we were interested in pulling live ads for real estate only, the feeds allowed their subscribers to add arbitrary "breadcrumb" links for random search terms to the top and bottom of the search results pages. These links set up an endless loop back into each feed's database of ads that spiders from search engines such as Google would follow, thus creating almost an infinite number of pages for any given search terms -- and powered automatically by the advertisers' content and my optimization formula. We were using findwhat, searchfeed and another one (can't remember it). As for the "exact" TOS violation, hmm, well with so many pages and increase in traffic in so little time, the operation undoubtedly triggered some kind of algo threshold/flag -- as for which one, who knows. We keep so many projects on the table that I spent less than 3 days wondering before I moved on to the next. It was however an experience that provided some hard won wisdom.
Wow. Thanks for the detailed explanation! Hope it didn't impact your other sites.. very hard lesson indeed!
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unfortunately any major blackhat tecniques talked about in the open either don't work, don't work as well as they did, or won't work soon. the major secrets, once leaked, are patched. there are two ways people avoid this: 1) networking. you only tell people "blackhat secrets" that you trust. this, of course, won't last forever... eventually it's likely to become public knowledge. 2) discover the techniques yourself and keep your mouth shut.