Terrorists are still alive & kicking

Good survey and reasonable I think.

I guess should consider "pride and prejudice" either.

 

I guess first of all, we have to know reasons behind such terroristic bombs. I know they are Muslim and don't think some secret issues like CIA, MI6 and Jews were behind it but anyway should know the reasons.

 

Anyone from here missing? You may have caused this bloke to snap Apoc. Note the end bit of this clip where he's upset with cartoonists.

[video=youtube;-ZgSUqgBqp8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZgSUqgBqp8[/video]

 

Seems to be one disgruntled individual set out by his own Mosque. The gov't implies others were involved but it does not appear to be the case.

Apoc., you have not killed anyone yet have you? Maybe wait a while.

 

Fighting violence with violence is not the answer

 

Agreed. Seems he's tried to get others onside, they have rejected him so he decided to do something himself. Crazy. Maybe the Mosque should have reported him.

@Muslims - is it an offense by your culture/religion to 'dob in' an extremist?

 

Who won those wars were the people having to defend themselves against aggressors who's use of violence was confronted by determination.

 

And how do we win wars? Is it through the determined application of political correctness?

 

The reasons are quite complex and most of them can't be changed . The upbringing matters a lot , how much of an extremists is the local Imam , how crappy the persons life is . You simply can't change those things . The one thing you can do is to crush any attempts at of religiously motivated violence . In a free state the government has limited powers , so laws that might fix some of the main motives will be frowned as totalitarian .

In case you didn't noticed I've put up this avatar when I published this article . Any more comments you'd like to make .

Not yet I wanted to kill some people but my ethics and my religion won't let me go on a full blow offense . But when it come to defending my freedom and my land I won't hesitate to pull the trigger . It just has to be legally justifiable .

Giving others special treatment has failed . A strong fightback is the only solution .

Reporting such nutcases is the only way they can be effectively monitored and stopped .

Ya slaughtering civilians is not violence , it's just something they should do . This is a defensive action . When someone wans tries to kill you you either imobilise him and trow him in jail or you kill him first . Often the first option is not available.

 

Well I know if I was sick of this crazy world and was gonna commit suicide, I'd jump in the car and head straight to Canberra and take a few of them out with me too. Fortunately, instead, I love this world because I can get over the horrible people and continue as if they aren't there.

If any country tried to come in & take over the life I've become accustomed to, under the guise of 'freeing' me, then started shooting my friends, family & loved ones, I would definately fight against that. As most of the enemy you now have, are. America has placed itself into a lose-lose situation by enforcing neo-con foreign policies on its people. If that's what the majority of Americans want then they deserve to be where they are now, a wart on the end of my nose. I happen to believe most Americans would like to know the truth about what their leaders have done and will not only fight to bring Bush & cronies to justice, but to happily serve them up on a platter, as will be evidenced soon.

 

Bushies translated comments provided below.

Translated: I sympathize with terrorists and their actions. The people in Canaberra are horrible and deserve to die.

Translated: America is an evil imperialist invader of countries. Their wars are without legitimate cause.

Translated:I support the terrorist actions against America and Americans. They have brought those actions on themselves. America is to blame.

Translated: I believe the scientific polling showing Bush's popularity in America now rivals Obamas is wrong.

Hey Bushie, you forgot to throw in some other stupid comment like, "I love America", like you usually do. Perhaps you should weigh in on your own country and countrymen, perhaps our best allies in these wars. Tell us what you think of them. I'm sure if you are really committed, someone can get you fitted for a suicide vest.

 

Best you not try for a translator's job, you're not good at that task. Best stick with your current political job, as you have the qualities of office. Twist people's words, then lie &/or cheat your way through. Lucky you've been outed here many times over, or I may think someone could believe your tripe.

 

I'm silly like that. I have the strange belief people can read and think for themselves. In fact, I count on it.

 

In addition to what Bush said, Obamanation is a disgrace not only to America but also the great state of California. I applaud Berkely City council for considering the resolution declaring private Manning a Hero, though I don't pity the fact that there wasn't evidence enough for it to get passed as he same evidence would have been used by traitors like him send him prison and silence other potential heroes.

 

That was immature and uncalled for . You're not exactly a shining star yourself Helvetii . Trolling for lulz is one thing but this type of direct attack doesn't pay anyone any favors . It just makes you look silly to say the least . Given the fact that O-nation is a far better speaker then anyone on this subforum .

 

In my opinion Helvetti IS a shining star. He gives the most straight-forward answers and supports his opinions with facts. I enjoy a number of people's input here but when it comes to 'cleverness, fairness, honesty, creative writing, good argument & pure brilliance', Helvetti is definately THE shining star.

I agree Obamanation comes across as clever, and speaks like a PR professional but watching him twist convos, add his own words then create a different argument for himself doesn't reflect well on the overall person we get to see. I think, like most if us, he's on the side of truth, he just hasn't worked out how to monetize it yet so it must be bad.

 

Enough is Enough. For long I have given right-wing extremists in this forum latitude for the sake of old times, even as they continued to mouth the rest off and employ lies and deceit as the primary tools for spreading their propaganda. The latest round of such activity has crossed the limit and I am no longer giving anyone the respect they don't deserve. Till now I would debate and discuss with them with the hope of making them see the truth and choose the right side, its of late that I started to realise that its waste. They don't believe in what they preach, they already know what the truth is and what is right but continue to be dishonest for selfish gains.

If you meant he's a good writer then I concur. But organizing lies and twisting other arguments and misrepresenting and overstating/understating facts in fancy english doesn't deserve atleast my respect I think. There's the difference between him and stoX, when one chooses the right side which he actually believes in its easier to prove your point with employing dirty tricks, even without fancy english and imposting otherwise you end up saying things like "My dog should get a driving license" when you run out of lies.

 

You do know that Helvetii is dabbling in black hat quite a lot ? And that his patriotism makes him say silly stuff every now and then . The fact that he's got your back on the Asange problem doesn't mean you have to fakely kiss his ass . If you respect the man so much why didn't you even bothered add him to your friend list ?

I didn't knew that having different political views means that he's not on the "side of truth" . As for the monetization part you need to open your eyes .

Right wing extremists you shout "Die you shitty sand nigga" or the smooth ones would diplomatically insult you and undermine you every time you spoke . Also there is not right side . The left cannot survive without the right and vice versa . Bouncing and debating ideas is how the modern political system is suppose to work . As for the earning part I fail to see what how does Obamanation fill his pockets from posting over here .

Ya I did meant good writer , it was something self evident The difference between Obamanation and stOx is that he doesn't try to fake facts by posting stuff like "Study shows that atheist are smarter then believers". And it's not about paying him respect , it's about respecting the forums conduit . We love to argue and the only ppl that earned insults are the extremists .

 

Why does that sound like ad hominem to me?

0 Friends - Bushranger has not made any friends yet. Some people don't mix DP with Facebook.

If some people can't argue their "different political views" without lying or committing fallacies, then its obvious that it because they don't believe in it themselves.

Ideas just bounce off some people leaving no scope for debate.

I never implied that he gets remunerated directly for posting propaganda here. I said he's dishonest because he's selfish. Example: He obviously knows that affordable healthcare is a right and everyone should be able to get health insurance but still he opposes the legislation which seeks to do just that tooth and nail because it increases his premiums.

Thats not a fake fact.

Extremist is someone who has extreme views on things, not necessarily religious. By any stretch of english language one would classify all the guys of his lot as extremists.