Can someone on H1 visa have a YPN Account ?

Discussion in 'Publisher Network' started by Blogspotter, Oct 8, 2006.

  1. #1
    This thread was started in Adsense, but then the replies mostly were to use the Home Town Address. Which I am doing anyway.

    What about YPN which requires a US address. Certain employment rules state that I can't do any other earning work that might effect my current work blah blah..

    So are full time working Americans allowed to earn via YPN or adsense. How about those on H1 whose visa is being sponsored by the employer. As a student it was fine, but is it a cause of concern if the employer finds out.

    I am asking this since one has to submit tax details when opening a YPN account.
     
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  2. alsjforever

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    do you have US social security number?

    some aliens do have US social security number
     
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    If you are able to get Google adsense and you are in USA then i think should not have problem. most of the terms and conditions are same [except you have to be in usa for ypn].

    you need tax ID or SSN inorder to receive check for sure.
     
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    Actually there is a problem, since it violates the term of the Visa which states explicitly that you shall not have any income besides your job (the one the visa is for). I was in a similar situation and I did not have any advertising until I got my EAD (work permit).
    You could get into serious trouble if you plan to apply for a Greencard. They could deny your card on those grounds. I don't know if the INS would take any action to deny extension of your visa. During your greencard application process you might get audited and then denied your application.
    Anyways, just ask a lawyer and they will confirm this.
     
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    Blogspotter Notable Member

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    The reply was most helpful. The terms of the employment does that..
    Thanks.. anyway.. But since students can do that, I am just wondering.lol
     
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    Anybody knows why yahoo can't manage to expand YPN to worldwide service?

    If google adsense can do it globally for so long a time now, what's taking ypn too long to expand worldwide?

    Ismael
     
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    They will go worldwide when they are ready, their advertiser base is not large enough to support publishers worldwide.

    As foir the Visa, if you have SSN and ar eallowed to work without limitation then you can join YPN, if your work and income is limited to just a specific job, then you cannot.
     
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    THis is BS. You can join YPN if you have a valid social security number. You will not get in serious trouble if you apply for a greencard. They will NOT even look at this data.
     
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    They don't look at tax returns at any time? Legally, you have to declare your income.
     
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    With H1 you can not work for another employer. but you can work for yourself.

    Basically if one employer is holding your H1, you can not work for another employer who is not holding the H1.

    Working on your web site is not considered as working for another employer.

    Thanks
     
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    holly crap i have never think about that. I am on H1 too..better call my lawyer soon...
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    yea, but since google pays you, doesn't it consider as your employer?
     
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    You don't have to believe what I said. Thats why I said ask a lawyer. Some even offer free consultations.
    I was told (by a lawyer and from other sources alt.visa newsgroup) not to do it and quite frankly I think I'd better play it safe.
    As I said, you may slip through, but if you get audited they will look at your tax returns. Also if you choose consular processing (not sure why you would) you are always being audited.
    So before some of you shout BS, you may want to get your information straight. There is a reason for having an EAD card.

    As a student the rules are different, but the H1 rules clearly state this.
    You are allowed to make money through investments (stocks, real estate) but not through work.
    There is some more info here:
    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum89/7368.htm
    but again, you should ask a lawyer for advice. I am not a lawyer, but quite frankly if there is any chance to mess things up for me I wouldn't do it.
     
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    To give you an idea how far this goes:

    I have a photo website and I was contacted by magazines more than once if they could have a photo. My lawyer told me that I couldn't even give them one for free, since you cannot even give your work for free if that is usually paid.
    Unless someone specifically stated that there was no other picture in the entire universe and they couldn't send an american out to take it, only then could I have given it away for free.
    Or if they are some sort of non-profit organization that never pays.
    Pretty crazy but thats the way it worked for me.
     
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    Neither Google Nor Yahoo is an employer, read the TOS.

    https://publisher.yahoo.com/legal/tnc.php
     
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    So? What I said includes working for yourself (freelance).

    Why are we even having this discussion? The rules of the H1-B are clear. Since the IRS and the INS are two independent institutions, chances are you might get away with it if you risk it.
    I simply stated that its against the rules of the H1-B. Do with information as you please or ask a lawyer for advice. I got my advice and I didn't do it. I lost some money but not the GC.
    Maybe those EAD cards (employment authorization) only exist for the fun of it, I don't know.
     
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    Blogspotter Notable Member

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    Hmm.. I gueesss I might have to stall my YPN boohoo.. and wth google smart pricing me, my adword campaigns are going bonkers
     
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    how about foreign students ?!
    I saw some Indian Students doing this kind of stuff :D and earn much more money than me !! gezzz ...
     
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    Dunno. I was never on a student visa, but I believe they are only allowed to work on-campus jobs. But don't quote me on that, since I don't really know.
    Anyhow, all these questions are better answered at an immigration board.
     
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    Not really. I just joined myself and I noticed that you can put your payment on hold, duh. Should have known three years ago.
    So why don't you just join and accumulate earnings (but don't take them out).
    May want to confirm that they don't sent any tax information to you until you actually get paid though.
    Since your money is still with yahoo, you might be o.k.
    Again, as with everything I said here its better to ask a lawyer. I don't know this stuff very well either and the immigration laws change by the minute (kind of hard to keep up).
     
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