wikileaks needs your help

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Arnie, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #221
    So the Germans aided the U.S. on purpose! Sweet; I did not know that. I had absolutely no idea that Einstein, Teller, Frisch, Bloch, and Fermi were Axis double agents. Thanks for keeping us all informed. :p
     
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  2. Bushranger

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    #222
    Is lying an art you're trying to acheive fame in? I wouldn't bother, for a start yiou're no good at it and secondly, that artform is on the way out. I'll post my links again here, but not going to respond to your absolute lies anymore. I'll just keep posting stuff that absolutely refutes your points, when I can be bothered.
     
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  3. ApocalypseXL

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    #223
    You usually post silly stuff and when your so called arguments get refuted by facts you lose it and start trowing insults around . It is your God given right to voice your opinions and argument them but everything is subject to criticism .
     
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  4. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #224
    Are you offering lessons?

    Any recommendations?


    Let me know when you start. Perhaps it is just me, but it seems the problems you are having in forming a good argument stem from your inability or unwillingness to read. Take your claim, for instance, that 90% of Australians "love him". The evidence you provide to back that claim is an online poll done by some Australian newspaper that asks the question, "Is Wikileaks good for democracy". Taking aside for a moment the fact that the poll does not ask the question "Do you like Jullian Assange", or that the poll did not limit those polled to Australians, an intelligent person could have simply READ the disclaimer at the bottom of the poll and known its value in supporting such a ridiculous claim.

    Hey don't sweat it man. 100% of Americans hate Assange and want him shot. I polled some of my friends, most of which are American, asking them the question, "Do you think the internet is a good thing?", and they all said yes! Yay!!!

    In case you missed it, that was me mocking you. Pull your head out. If the Aussies in general really thought we are as evil as you think we are, they wouldn't still be amongst the top military supporters of our overseas occupations, err... liberations.
     
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  5. Bushranger

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    #225
    Facts, ha. Read my posts, they're full of them. Read yours, then you can laugh.

    @OB - Switching to Julian Assange to try to change what i'm arguing for won't work, sorry. Your team's lost it, and I don't mean credibility, you lost that a loooong time ago.
     
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  6. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #226
    Dude, the fact you would take a non scientific online poll from a dying leftist rag from Australia, and try and pass that poll off as representative of the views of all Australians destroyed any small shred of credibility you had left. No sane person on the planet would ever take the results of a non-scientific online poll from Fox or MSNBC or the Guardian and try and pass that off as representative of the views of any country. You are a lunatic.

    A simple Google search reveals a long list of complaints of bias and, in some cases, outright fabrication, by your beloved paper with failing finances. It would appear most Australians vote with their pocket book and choose not to buy the tripe you seem to love. That says a lot more than any poll. Get a grip.
     
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    #227
    Psst... Perhaps you should reread my post rather than disagreeing with what I did NOT say
    For starters, I didnt mention nukes. I said we've given a couple of billion in foreign and military aid to a country that votes against our interests 3 outta 4 times... and it's stupid. It's not our job to help prop up your backward burg where a substantial part of the citizenry worships the prime ingredient of a Big Mac, and we have our own issues to deal with without trying to pay for yours.

    Neither did I suggest we expect gratitude. I just said we should turn off the tap... the obvious point being it's stupid to aid and abet those not on the same team.

    If it bothers you that in the last decade your panhandling government has accepted about 2 BILLION in aid from a country you dont respect, NP, take it up with your leaders.
     
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  8. Bushranger

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    #228
    Media chiefs throw support behind WikiLeaks
    and the link is here
     
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    #229
    What a nice article :rolleyes: "Major NAMES" but the only name in there is the one of the director of the publishing network . Bullshit much ?
     
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  10. Blue Star Ent.

    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    #230

    I never said any such thing. Please acknowledge. I only said : "They became nuclear specifically with the
    help of the United States.
    "

    That's twice that has happened in this thread...
     
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  11. Bushranger

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    #231
    WikiLeaks' Collateral Murder: U.S. Soldier Ethan McCord
    [video=youtube;kelmEZe8whI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kelmEZe8whI[/video]
     
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  12. ApocalypseXL

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    #232
    Why don't you post the chopper vid ?
     
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  13. Bushranger

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    #233
    Classified military footage released by WikiLeaks showing an attack by US military in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad. This callous attack left 12 dead including two Reuters staff. Two Iraqi children were also seriously injured.
    [video=youtube;to3Ymw8L6ZI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to3Ymw8L6ZI[/video]

    As requested.
     
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  14. ApocalypseXL

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    #234
    And this unfortunate incident is how Wikileaks thinks they show the truth :)

    Bush you watched the vid .Do you think you could post your detailed opinion about it ?
     
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  15. Helvetii

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    #235
    Yeah I know it sounds silly and I never said that, US, Canada, Britain didn't aid India on purpose either. Their role in our nuclear program was similar to Germany's role in their nuclear program. Its settled.


    2 billion in 10 years OMFG!! Poor Americans. Here's a reality check for you: US didn't throw away that 2 billion (if it was 2 billion) at us to be used however we see fit. They were part of specific programs used for specific purposes mostly involving, women rights, education, democracy promotion, health care etc. When these "deals" were struck, ALWAYS US got more in return. Consider this recent example, during the recent visit Obama set up a new program aimed at spreading Aids Awareness India an pumped in a few million into that and in return went away with billions of dollars worth of business and 50,000 jobs for Americans.

    Now say this Along with me, US doesn't do Charity. US Doesn't do Charity. US doesn't do Charity.
     
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    #236
    Now repeat after me : India is dead without outsourcing and economic protectionism , India is dead without outsourcing and economic protectionism , India is dead without outsourcing and economic protectionism .
    Now repeat after me : No US = No India , No US = No India , No US = No India .
     
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  17. Helvetii

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    #237
    Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival.
     
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    #238
    You have to love that sh*t. Somehow or other Helvetti thinks contracts with Boeing and GE for things India cant produce locally equate to some sort of give away. Let me assure you, Helvetti, that if India had the capability of manufacturing those things locally, they would.


    LoL Apoc. Dead on the money. Can you imagine what would happen if we cut off US outsourcing to India and the H1B program all at once? It suspect it would be hard to distinguish India from Pakistan.


    Perhaps true, but it seems that whatever it is you want to call what we are handing out, your country is more than happy to take it.
     
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  19. Bushranger

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    #239
    The gunship crew fucked up. There was a fight, not far away, these people were gathering to work out what the firing was, who they were firing at etc and were gathering around reporters who were about to do the story, then they got killed.
     
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  20. Helvetii

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    #240
    Most of the things can be produced locally, its just that the capacity is maxed out for years. Secondly US is not the only company, China would have probably done it cheaper. US government has and always does lobby on behalf of private firms.

    US doesn't do charity. It champions globalisation because its in their interest. If you don't understand such a obvious thing, well sorry not my problem.

    I'd call it cash for favors.
     
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