If everyone thought like you : everyone would be running round with guns , and have even more access. And individuals do have a right to make there own choices , they also have an election. If you don't like the current gun laws imposed by a government , don't vote for them. Are you only in this world for yourself'? you've got to think about other people as well. And no , I'm not communist.
No they wouldn't, they would just respect people who want to own a gun's right to do so. I'm not a congressmen and "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" cannot coexist with unlimited majority control. I should think of other people and be considerate but should I be arrested if I don't? Also, being for peoples rights is being very considerate. Based on the "for the good of the community" quote you sure sound like one.
What does being a christian have to do with anything? To put your thinking in other words, "If we give these people rights, there might be a slightly larger chance of there possibly being crime so we need to get rid of those rights and let the government make all the choices for us"
No, there needs to be laws but only laws that protect the rights of citizens like "don't kill nobody" Laws like "You can't swear on tv" or "guns are bad, trust us" not only infringe upon individual rights but also give the government an excess of power.
Okay, math20, you obviously have no concept of statiscal analysis. The greater number of guns there are, the greater the chance they will fall into the wrong hands. Understand? Don't get me wrong, I find nothing wrong with anybody who owns guns. I enjoy firing guns, I like hunting. However, there has to be a limit to ensure the safety of the people. We can't have it where anybody can walk into a Wal-Mart and buy a fully automatic assault rifle. Oh, and the common good of the people is not a Communist ideology. It's actually one of the basic principles of our own government. Common good often overshadows the will of the people. This issue happens to be one of those times.
No it is not, but restricting the rights of the individual for the "good of the community" is. Yeah, let's make everyone hand over their assets to the government so it can be equally distributed; it's for the good of the people! (communism) I agree, criminals need to be put in jail but owners of assault rifles do not.
You've just proven that it's an undeniable fact, you sir, are a complete moron. No further discussion needed. Let us know when you re-complete 3rd grade.
Why? I don't believe in a huge government intervening in all transactions so I'm an idiot? Only a idiot idealist could possibly think that would work.
Before we descend any further into this discussion, let's take a moment to review some data on gun control. I am seeing some myths propagated in this thread which are easily dispelled by reading Gun Facts. Let's take a break, study for a few days, and then pick up where we left off.
In general, my thoughts are that it is unsafe to entrust government as the sole posessor of firearms. Governments have a very very bad history of murdering huge percentages of their own citizens. Statistics also show that the private ownership of firearms also acts to make us safer from criminals. For me, that's a bonus. I am an individual. I will not surrender my individual right to self-defense to anyone, least of all to a government. I don't trust government. Worse, the courts have ruled that the police are not responsible for protecting us from crime; they are only responsible for catching the criminals afterwards. Therefore, if we do not protect ourselves and our families, no one will. And of course, we cannot assign the task of protecting us from our own government to that same government. That would be a little bit illlogical, wouldn't it? But really, much brighter minds than my own have spoken much better words than I could ever hope to. Instead of continuing to write, I will instead point you to a few words of wisdom concerning firearms.
every man should have the rights to protect ones family and self. But I still think the first users posts saying "anyone should have legal access to guns until they commit a crime" it total crap. Will.Spencer , good post + rep.
we don't have a right to bear arms in the irish constitution but i think that everyone should have the right to defend themselves any way they can, the criminal is not going to worry about what is legal and what is not. at least if people had a right to bear arms they stand a chance of protecting what is theirs
I agree with Will, but any restriction on the trade of guns is an attempt to control what people may or may not own based on the premise that it will "make us safer" and that is completely ludicrous. I and only I know what is best for me regardless of what the federal government(Liberals mainly) would lead you to believe.
Accually this is completely false. If you look at Los Angelos, New York City, and Washingtons D.C.'s Crime rate then compair that to the strictness of there gun control laws you can draw the conclusion that less guns=more crime. Who would you be more apt to rob? Gas Station #1 Loaded 12 gauge behind the counter or Gas Station #2 No Guns on property? You idiot people need to quit punishing law abiding people for the actions of the idiots you protect. "Criminals"
What? Please explain your reasoning. Also, there has to be rules like "Don't murder anybody" but to say "If you choose to have to capability of harming someone then you must go to jail" is ridiculous! How could you possibly be for the extreme regulation of firearms because someone could be hurt with one?
I live outside of DC. Lets see a little while ago a Vet from Iraq was shot and killed less than 1 mile from where I live...and that is a reportedly great safe area. A short time ago a kid took a bunch of weapons from his house and ambushed/killed two cops leaving their station in a "safe area" in Northern Virginia. The kid had automatic weapons. The number of murders within the bad areas is horrific. Largest number of victems are kids within DC. For all those who think that guns should be free for everyone in the states....what do you think of that stuff. oh yeah....shootings in schools. Check out what happened today: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15012088/ Now you guys have all the answers on everything. Proscribe a solution. Or should we just leave it as is. yes, DC does have tough gun laws...and they don't limit killings. So should we leave it as is? Is it good to have cops and vets shot? I got nothing against hunting rifles etc. I got nothing against the right to defend oneself. I got big problems with guns everywhere and a growing danger to everyone including cops, vets and school kids. Who has solutions?