Speaking from an SEO aspect, isnt the reason that everyone wants inclusion into DMOZ, because of the high PR? Well if everything was changed and everyone including the garbage spam sites, the pure MFA sites etc could buy inclusion, wouldnt the PR drop because of the drop in standards? If so, the very thing that people are hoping for, is what will destroy the value of the link. This is asked from a webmaster perspective, not an editors perspective
What rubbish, I hear Snooks is giving away a million pounds to the first person who puts a smacker on the other cheek. Anyone can hear rubbish.
Many DO have access... but according to the guidelines, that does not mean they will add such sites If you recall, I even started a thread on the subject of a link builder being an editor, and how that was well within the rules
If you truly are an editor of DMOZ could you tell me why the site in my sig is not listed at DMOZ I have tried numerous times for 1 sole listing but I never get any reply successful or unsuccessful other sites I see listed are not half as old as mine yet still mine is not listed?
I'm an editor and the probable reason is that nobody has yet evaluated it. (boilerplate alert) Some volunteer will process your listing suggestion in time but we can't predict who or when that might be. Elapsed times can range from a few days to a few years. There is no need to re-suggest your website and doing so could be counter-productive because a later suggestion overwrites any earlier one. Age of website is immaterial. Does your organisation actually own any car parks?
My suggestion for getting furture sites listed is to simply READ THE GUIDELINES, even just the add page should be good enough. You'll find that multiple submissions CAN get you flagged as a spammer. So now answer your own question.... why isn't your site listed?
If you are an editor I trully congratulate you, buyt you should ask your editor colleagues to check more often submitted sites. I have submitted 1 of my website 4 times and still was not approved. First time, I agree that I did not respected submitting policies, second time was better, third time was great but 4th time I submitted excellent. Still the site was not accepted. I am really disappointing with this directory and I am very sure that google will ignore it very soon.
Why? It's unnecessary and our submission guidelines that you read and agreed on each occasion told you not to do it. Spamming us has no useful payoff but can attract payback .
Apply & get rejected. This is what DMOZ working for New Applications. More to say, I was blamed that I tried to earn money becoming an Editor. Lol... that was a great joke ever from DMOZ. Do you know why? I tried for my native regional category, where people gets an website within $30 including hosting, domain & designing. Poor state in IT field. Who will pay me to get listed in that regional category? DMOZ Admins, open your eyes and see how much an web designer or developer gets in Assam, India. Then say, that I tried to gain money. Where people do not pay more than $30-$50 for Designing including Domain & Hosting, how they will pay for DMOZ listing? I must laugh at your blame. Because more than 90% of internet user from my regional area even have not heard about any DMOZ or ODP or AOL. Keep waiting. As I am waiting since 2007, that too for sites which were designed/owned by others. I suggested to DMOZ to keep DMOZ updated about sites from my regional area. I was suggesting sites from my Regional area for the regional category of my state, since 2006/2007. Few are listed. And since 2007 no update is there. In 2007 too there were 82 sites and now too. Now DMOZ Editors will say that sites did not meet criteria to get listed. Do you have any answers for the Government sites & University websites too? Do those site too do not have the criteria to get listed?
It’s more than fair to say that Dmoz isn't what it used to be, and that would be saying it nicely. You may notice whenever you search for something online these days that a Wikipedia entry is often on the first page if it exists there - a DMOZ entry?.. "crickets chirping". This used to be the case for Dmoz, meaning it was a good referrer of traffic to websites. The "keywords" in that last sentence are that it "used to be". Dmoz’s category pages do not rank well at all anymore, so traffic referral is next to nothing. They ceased to innovate and shake things up, LEAD! DMOZ has been plagued for years by editors trying to sell their approval. Correctly submitted sites with relative industry authority [RIA] have been placed in a purgatory holding pattern while other ridiculous entries get top billing and all that coupled with it's downward spiraling irrelevance in the SE's is good enough reason to use your valuable time in other areas of the net. Having your site listed at DMOZ is about as important to you the webmaster as a bicycle is to a fish. Originally called ‘Gnuhoo’ by founder Rich Skrenta, it was renamed the Open Directory Project in October 1998 when it was bought by Netscape. It was then acquired by AOL shortly thereafter, and Dmoz was one of the assets included in the acquisition. Now,, AOL is loaded with money, billions and billions, if they wanted DMOZ to remain relevant to the internet, they would have no problem in "PAYING" it's editors to do good work. Unfortunately, what you have is a bunch of Yahoo (and I don't mean the SE) web scrubs who love throwing their self diluted weight around, ready to b-slap anyone who even thinks about re-submitting... you would think that instead of looking at each submissions' "correctness" and clicking the approve button, they first must take their precious "donated" time to look back through the logs to first see if and when by what IP had occurred anytime before in the last 10 years. Like domains don't ever drop and get re-submitted, lol...please! Shoot me or spare me! What I'm saying here is; If they cared, I mean really, truly cared about it's relevance in the world wide web, do you think they would operate as they do today? They should really just turn the whole operation over to shawn here at DP - hell, it would take him less than 3 months to turn it into: 1. A Ultra relevant entity that has unique and powerful authority. 2. It would be worth millions annually 3. Staff would be hand picked from candidates with exceptional skills and experience (not some lefty liberal cookie jar). So yeah, thats my nickels worth. If you don't agree with everything I just said, you must have brain damage.
A very real problem about that is that editors do NOT want to be paid under ANY circumstances. Many of us have been offered paid positions in other directories and turned them down. Would you want to be paid for collecting stamps or coins? We collect URL's and organise them, we have no interest in if big site owners or owners of what they think are big sites get listed or not. They have to wait like the little guy who offers unique content on a crap looking site. I really do think you and others would do better to read the sticky that robjones wrote at the top of this section to understand how we came into being and why we continue to exist and being top of anything really does not matter to us, we are hobbyists who build a directory AS A HOBBY for those who want such material for searching the net. And if AOL want to destruct DMOZ then they will start paying, trying to pay or offering payment to editors. Thankfully of all their visions that is not one they have offered.
QUOTE from Anonymously and line replies by me: A very real problem about that is that editors do NOT want to be paid under ANY circumstances. [laughable] [dmoz editors are known for two things - we all know what and I highly doubt that you speak for even a small percentage of DMOZ editors] Many of us have been offered paid positions in other directories and turned them down. [I know how you feel, NASA offered me a job as a spaceman but I prefer to toy with alien conspiracy theories instead] Would you want to be paid for collecting stamps or coins? [well that's the stupid question of the year 2010] [Yeah....Most people would love to get paid for the work that they put into their hobbies - ARE YOU LIKE 5 YEARS OLD? ] We collect URL's and organise them, we have no interest in if big site owners or owners of what they think are big sites get listed or not. [I said "Relevant Industry Authority" - that does NOT mean "big site owner" you do understand the difference right? You are one of them there smart ole' dmoz editorialisn folks aintcha?] They have to wait like the little guy who offers unique content on a crap looking site. [whatever you say] I really do think you and others would do better to read the sticky that robjones wrote at the top of this section to understand how we came into being and why we continue to exist and being top of anything really does not matter to us, we are hobbyists who build a directory AS A HOBBY for those who want such material for searching the net. [OHHH, so now you want all of us to read something from someone that may have Relevant Industry Authority....and look, he's one of your people! ... well friend, your buddy will have to get in line because there are alot of other posts here at DP that I have not read that were stickied before his.] And if AOL want to destruct DMOZ then they will start paying, trying to pay or offering payment to editors. [you seem to have left out - And hire all new editors that would be hand picked from candidates with exceptional skills and experience because all us "hobbyist editors" would quit in disgust at the though of being paid] Thankfully of all their visions that is not one they have offered. [whose vision? do you even know how many hands the DMOZ has passed through? ] Anonamously - your attempt to hijack Snooks thread has been rejected I wont belay my original points in trying to answer the original thread starter: SNOOKs who asked: Speaking from an SEO aspect, isnt the reason that everyone wants inclusion into DMOZ, because of the high PR? Well if everything was changed and everyone including the garbage spam sites, the pure MFA sites etc could buy inclusion, wouldnt the PR drop because of the drop in standards? If so, the very thing that people are hoping for, is what will destroy the value of the link. This is asked from a webmaster perspective, not an editors perspective But hey, thanks for proving my point Anonymously! I couldn't have wished for a better "dmoz editor" participant.
The ideal job is something that you enjoy to do. Anyone NOT willing to take money for doing what they enjoy, likely has a mental handicap. Seriously... you are doing it anyone, you need money. 1+1=2 in all cases but for those that post anonymously. and the biggest issue? Collecting stamps actually COSTS money, so erm, what are you paying to collect those sites? Nothing? Would you pay to collect websites? I mean, my site is added, I'd love to get paid for your hobby... I mean you enjoy it soooooooo much you'd never accept money, so why not be a real collector and pay for your collection. I for one do NOT believe that you would leave for being paid for the simply fact that NOTHING would change, other then you'd be getting paid. And if you are not wanting to be paid, what is your day job... and don't say a reverend, they don't make enough to not accept money for hobbies.
Actually that Anonymous is collecting peoples who want paid submission in ODP. He is gathering money here with supreme care that he does not even reveals his own name & ODP Editor name. Think deep, you will get the answer.
Dmoz people not good! Because very nice search engine have in turkey name of http://www.geliyoo.comarama motoru geliyoo.com it is very nice but DMOZ people or Editor dont put in dmoz becuuse same google search engine but not work from google! Layer DMOZ