Christians are under the influence of Satan

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  1. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #41
    I'd never thought I'd see the day when Will will be backing up Santa :p
     
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    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #42
    it's understandable, had to choose between Santa and Allah
     
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    sar420 Notable Member

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    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #44
    There is a problem because the Christians do seem to claim Saitan exists as does the OP.

    Neither understands the Outerworld is cleansed by the Creator from all evil and is the same pursuit granted to mankind in remittance not offered Saitan who is destroyed by the cleansing and to believe otherwise disavows the Creator as the Almighty and likewise the reasoning in the pursue of the Outerworld.
     
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  5. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #45
    It's not a problem, you can believe in Satan and at the same time be under his influence to commit evil.
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    #46
    I saw the video source was youtube. Just wonder how youtube could be a credible source for SolarProduct, where as even youtube managers never claim that!!

    I have seen SolarProduct sometimes refuse Quran when it wasn't agreed with his willing!

    So think Apocalyps was right

     
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  7. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #47
    The video is uploaded on YouTube for the purpose that you can view it.

    So you are suggesting this video is fake too?

    I never disagreed with the Quraan, how much do they pay you for lying so much?
     
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    babak44 Active Member

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    #48
    I guess Saitan is one of the most oppressed person.
     
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    sar420 Notable Member

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    #49
    Man, I agree with you, again :D
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #50
    Verses from the Quran are not a credible source either. If non-Muslims thought so, then they would be Muslims. Just so you know.
     
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    #51
    I finally watched those vids and found them really funny stuff . I guess the troll named SP thinks his talking to newbs lol
     
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    #52
    Islam believes Saitan and hell were not destroyed...? What then is the reasoning for your God?
     
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    #53
    good question.
    hell is under construction and will be open for public after judgment day! you have to wait till that time.

    Quran Chapter 7: AL-ARAF
    in fact Saitan hasn't much power and no authority in the earth, just can whisper in human heart.
    Chapter 17: AL-ISRA
     
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  14. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #54
    Hell already exists, the proof shall follow:

    Quran:

    1. Then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers) (2:24).

    Hadeeth:


    1. The prophet said: "The Fire sought the permission of her Lord. She said, 'O my Lord! Some parts of me consumed the other parts.' And Allah allowed her two periods to exhale, one in winter and one in summer."

    2. The Companions heard the sound of a falling object. They asked about it, then the Messenger of Allah said: "This is a stone that was thrown from the top of Hell seventy years ago, but only now reached its bottom.)" Saheeh Muslim.


    Regards

    SP
     
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    #55
    Does this mean even stones go to hell? But why? Because they can be used to make idols for pagans??
     
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    #56
    Do you have any greeting cards with pictures from Hell?
     
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    #57
    Do you have pictures of your brain?
     
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    #58
    I could give you one, only that you'll have to kill me first and crack my skull open. :)
     
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    #59
    do you heard any about Barzakh?
    in some part of Quran mentioned about hell and situation there but In Islamic eschatology, Barzakh is the intermediate state in which the soul of the deceased is transferred across the boundaries of the mortal realm into a kind of "cold sleep" where the soul will rest until the Qiyamah (Judgement Day). The term appears in the Qur'an Surah 23, Ayat 100.

    beleived that in Qiyamah (Judgement Day) all the world will destroy and heaven and hell will made. this heaven is deferent that the heaven Adam and eve had been.

    pardon I didn't mentioned any link and source because couldn't find such think in youtube!
     
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  20. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #60
    Yes, I do.




    Yeah, what's your point?

    "So that I may do good in that which I have left behind!" No! It is but a word that he speaks, and behind them is Barzakh (a barrier) until the Day when they will be resurrected.

    But its irrelevant to this discussion, so I don't know why you go off topic.


    Hell will be made after everything is destroyed?

    According to who?

    Allaah says it's already prepared, here is the verses with it's context this time:

    "And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quran) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a Surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful. " 100:23

    "But if you do it not, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers. " 100:24"

    And we can further support it with other verses and Hadeeth.

    So how can you possibly say it's going to be made later showing us zero evidence? You are a strange guy.

    I don't understand this.


    Thanks for confirming that you don't have to see something to believe in it.

    SP
     
    IsraeI, Dec 8, 2010 IP