Supplement Results

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  1. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #141
    Absolute and total rubbish.
     
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    #142
    I noticed the same thing, my site went from 1,700 pages indexed to 120 then i noticed my other 1,580 were showing up as supplemental results for the past 48 hours. Checked this afternoon and now everything is back to normal with now 1,730 in the index.
     
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    #143
    well, the only supp. results i have are when pages get changed by me and the url is no longer valid. it's easy to avoid this if you have a wordpress blog. just use the head-meta-desc plugin. all the pages come out with unique SE descriptions.

    I also write the urls my self or let the title of post be the post slug:

    http://mysite.com/name-of-story

    or

    http://mysite.com/keyword1-keyword2
     
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    #144
    Hehehe I am going to ride the fence here... From my knowledge of how things have worked for SEO'ing in the past and now, it seems that some things still work while others do not. It also seems what may seem to work for one, does not work for another. I know in my case for one of my clients, recip links have hurt him, while another site it seems to have helped. Why, I do not know. Like we have all said at one point, this is a dance, a game, and the moves and the steps change up, so we must adapt and move one to what works... If it was clear on what we should do, we would not have these discussions as to what means what and why... Me, I like to blame Google, because they hold the key to many of the discussions we have and like I said before... only God.. oops Google knows.
     
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  5. minstrel

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    #145
    And that alone tells you that it is not reciprocal links per se that is the issue, but something else. I would suggest you look at relevance of the links and source of the links to figure out why it worked well in one instance and not in the other.
     
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    visio Well-Known Member

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    #146
    I agree with most of what you said except that recip are worthless and that they cancel each other out. I don't believe that happens atleast not all the time. With worthless irrelevant sites I think you can get penalized fro recip linking but with relevant sites I do believe recip linking still gives each site a small amount of value depending on other on-site and offsite factors.


    Dude it is all because of the update. When the update is all over and if we then still have supplemental we can decide what is going on but at this point you can decipher anything because Google supplementaled nearly the whole index lol


    If Google gave away all its secrets every moron in the world would be spamming google. We really don't need that.



    Open your eyes mate. We aren't in 2004 anymore. It appears to me than many of these webmasters who have only a small amount of seo knowledge even realize the worth of one-way links over recip.


    Believe me Minstrel I would know if recip links had the same value and if they did I wouldn't be argueing with you because I once thought they did and I was like you. I would argue my point all day until I realized I had 1700 relevant recip links and had only a few small rankings which produced only a small amount of traffic. I began building one-way relevant links and began to see a drastic change even though some of these one ways were still small sties themselves and didn't have the authority some of my recip partners had. The recip links got me some rankings but not nothing compared to 100 one-ways.

    I am fairly new to DP compared to some of you but not to seo. I have worked with many sites using many link building methods. The only ones I really haven't tried are bh methods. I have tried nearly everything else. And no I am no means perfect and cetainly make mistakes but on something like this I would bet my career.
     
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  7. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #147
    You are deluding yourself, visio. There is more superstitious thinking when it comes to Google than one can even begin to enumerate. And being around a long time and repeating the myths and superstitious conclusions ad nauseum doesn't make them any more correct.

    One way links are NOT better than reciprocal links. Period. Reciprocity is NOT the factor that differentiates between a good link and a bad link. Period.
     
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    #148

    You are right it is not the reciprocity that is the issue that determines a link if good or not...

    My point is a link from Site A PR4 to Site B PR 4 and vice versa is not going to have any more or less value. The factor of value is the issue.

    Lets look at it in the form of money

    One way link = $1.00 worth of value

    Recip link = $.01 worth of value

    So why collect 100 recips when you can have just as much value with 1 one way link???

    And the values above are just for examples sake.
     
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  9. minstrel

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    #149
    Sem, do you even read what you post? You contradict yourself from one line to the next. :rolleyes:

    So far, so good. Then, in the next breath, you totally contradict what you just wrote:

    Honestly, the blather that comes from your keyboard astounds me sometimes... :eek:
     
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    #150
    You know what...I try to treat you like a man at times.....but your are too childish and immature to see it

    You sit and complain that Google is broken because it does not do what you want..who are you lol?????

    You offer nobody any help ...whine whine whine ...thats all you do

    and then those who do offer valid help you try and discredit....

    Youre a piece of work little boy.....

    now stop being being a queer little man and get off peoples asses

    :eek::eek:

    Now theres an eek for you
     
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  11. minstrel

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    #151
    "Waste of ammo." :rolleyes:
     
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    #152
    Whats the matter shooting blanks more often oldman??? :D

    See a shrink to help with that ;)
     
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    #153
    Mate your still living in 2004. Back then they were equal but not anymore. It has been spammed too much and that is one reason the big daddy update made such a stir. It was one update that discredited recip links a great deal.

    Like I said before I am not condemning recip linking by any means I still think it works and in some cases is the best bet as one-ways are almost impossible to get in certain areas. However I still believe the big daddy update discredited these to a certain degree.
    And I also think a massive recip linking campaign can hurt you as well were as one-ways will never. All I can say is this has come from my testing it on my sites over and over. Again I used to believe like you do but not anymore and especially not after the google big daddy update.
     
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  14. minstrel

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    #154
    What is this 2004 thing you keep referring to? Was that your entry into site promotion or something? :confused:

    Either way, you are just plain wrong about this. However, you're also stubbornly wrong so there's clearly no point in prolonging the debate any further, other than to alert others to ignore anything you say about the evils of reciprocal links.

    Carry on.
     
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    #155
    From what you say I am assuming you started in 2004 which your reg date seems to prove. Back then things were as you say. But they have changed. And yes it is a waste of time as you don't believe the same but I will leave you witha a proposition.
    I would like to do a contest with you where you use recip and I use only one-way links and see who gets the better rankings. Of course recip are easier to get so there would be no way to claim afterwards your claim if I were to win.

    Sound good?
     
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    #156
    haha little boy gave me another red

    Guess what doc..the mods see who is harrassing who....
     
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    #157
    Uh, no. That was just when I registered here. I have been at it considerably longer than that - in fact, longer than Google.

    More superstitious thinking and jumping to conclusions on your part, visio. :)
     
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    #158
    So minstrel your afraid of a dual? Why? :rolleyes:
     
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    #159
    Well, see thats where the issue really lies doesn't it, if it really was or not. In our research and comparing close to 4 other identical sites that we set up the same (only niche was different) the one customer had recip links to other high quality (PR7+) same-niche sites. The site was doing well, till we started our linking and it went down hill from there. But, we have been recovering slowly for the customer. I dont clame to be an SEO expert or God, and will not pass judgment onto those who says what does and does not work because by now, we should all know the game changes almost on a monthly basis sometimes with Google. Notice I said Google... Yahoo, and MSN seem to have a clear picture on what you need to do.
     
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    #160
    I think you mean "duel", not "dual", and "you're" not "your", but whatever... No. I'm not afraid of the results, if that's what you mean, because I already know the outcome. By all means, you go ahead and do whatever you feel will help you. I have better things to do with my time than waste it in pointless exercises like that.
     
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