World War 3; Will China take over the USA?

China will be fine, The U.S will never default and if push comes to shove they will take drastic measures here to get out of debt. First thing they need to do is get rid of that free trade agreement, and quit letting China undercut U.S companies by allowing them to ship all that crap here. Also the U.S needs to put pressure on china about bootlegging every product that has ever ever hit the market, billions upon billions are lost every year due to China's lack of respect for others properties... The U.S has the biggest economy in the world, and they allow a big chunk of the money to go over seas. it's time for them to tighten the noose on these countries and give them something to really cry about.

 

Check your thinking there... the U.S. is purposefully devaluing its own currency. The Chinese can't threaten the U.S. with that, because it hurts the Chinese more than it hurts the Americans. In fact, right now the Chinese are angry because the U.S. is devaluing it's own currency using Quantitative Easing.

 

Yes, you have a point the US is devaluing the Dollar, however the example I sited was to show that the China doesn't need bullets and bombs to wreck damage on the US. It wouldn't make sense for them to purposely devalue their investment unless provoked...say in the event of a war (which is where this thread started)....in this case it makes more sense to wage economic warfare with dollars instead of bombs and bullets.

What really gets me is why people here in the US aren't as angry as the rest of world is over this devaluation. Their savings are losing value and their buying power is withering away. People are getting royally screwed and the worse is by the time they fully realize what happen it will be too late.

 

Absolutely, but even in the case of an economic war, or a trade war, they still go in mostly unarmed. 2.5 trillion dollars in debt is just about the amount of money we printed between QE1 and QE2. If they try and sell it off to create a run on the currency, they only further devalue their holdings. If we sink, they lose the lions share of their export economy. At the end of the day, the best play they have available to them is propping us up while giving us a few angry words.

And here I agree with you, sort of. For me, the jury is out as to whether devaluing our debt is a good thing. It will definitely help to bring manufacturing back inside the country, but it weakens our position as a world leader. What makes me angry are the things which lead to the necessity for QE2, or QE1 even. From all appearances, we have as much corruption in our government spending as any third rate banana republic.

 

Its -36 with the windchill where I am. I'm every year my region experiences horror.

 

If you are talking of war, China does not have the military assets to attack the US. You could cite cyber warfare as an increasing factor into an attack on the US however what real harm is that going to do, seeing as the US also have some very high tech counter measures.

There is nothing China can do military wise, every possible aspect you look at, China will lose. What does this mean? There is no gain in China attacking militarily the US otherwise they'd lose. I'd take jibe and also come to the conclusion that China has no say what so ever in forcing the US to do anything at-all even if it attempted to attack the US' economy.

Nothing will happen, except business as usual.

 

Im not crazy about it, im curious of what people think of it.

Whats wrong with people having an opinion?

 

Do some research before talking shit. China has a very large military, possibly bigger than the US.

So please, research before you talk crap.

 

Why are you trashing the guy for having an opinion???

Didn't you say this when someone questioned your opinion??

Don't be a hypocrite...

 

Why to waste time on research if you are going to talk crap anyways?

 

I think it's you who needs to do some research.

China has a large land army, but their air force and navy are about a tenth the size of the U.S. forces. Unless the Chinese army can walk to the U.S., echo_unlimited is correct when he states "China does not have the military assets to attack the US."

Have you even studied the Rand analysis of a China vs. Taiwan military conflict?

 

China may very well have a large military, but it is what is in that military which defines its military 'attack' capability. I can have a million man army, however how am I going to transport them 7,000 miles over land and sea? They don't have the assets to launch an attack on continental United States.

The air force. Most of the aircraft the Chinese have are fighter jets, they do not have the range or logistical equipment to refuel in air or to refuel in large numbers let alone bombers / transport aircraft. The longest range aircraft they have that can transport infantry is only 7km, the US is much further away. Then you have to get pass the idea of F-22/F-16/F-15/AA missiles shooting at you if you do indeed manage to get a small number of aircraft near US soil. Not only this, the US have a number of precision ICBMs which could decimate China and they also have protective counter measures against ICBMs if China decides they would like to fire back in-kind. China has 1,300 fighter planes whereas the US have 2,300 comparatively more modern aircraft, consisting of only fighter jets. With a total of over (USAF) 5,000 aircraft in comparison to China's (PLAAF: In total) 2,500 aircraft. US military budget: $692 billion Chinese military budget: $84.64 billion. Significantly the US holds a much larger modern military which is due to frequent updates of new technology thus why their budget is so high in comparison.

Naval assets. The Chinese navy is the closest thing that would get close to US soil, mainly submarines, which can't hold too many combat infantry if they wanted to attack US mainland. Their subs could perhaps kill quite a few US navy ships, however the retaliation in which that would have in effect would be immense. Think US tipped ICBMs, huge naval and air force attacks on military bases in China.

If the Chinese attacked the US. You would have the entirety of NATO giving a hand to the US as well. In combination the military of these countries is much larger. Thus my assertion in saying China can hardly do anything military wise is correct.

So please, instead of calling anyone's post "crap", look at your own post and see where you can contribute instead of spouting this idea a large army means a large attack capability and actually reply with a reasonable opinion countering mine.

 

Well said echo, I don't think he needs to even reply with the school you just gave him...