Mother may be hanged for blasphemy - No prizes for guessing the religion

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by stOx, Nov 18, 2010.

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Should someone be executed for insulting mohammad?

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  2. No

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  1. Vebtools

    Vebtools Well-Known Member

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    #21
    Did I?

    I wish i post such kind of stuff, but its useless to share here ;)

    BTW you should post about the thread not anti Islamic stuff, coz you are an atheist, who want peace in their own words ;)
     
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  2. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #22
    This goes back to the very beginning of Islam.
    • Abu Afak was murdered for making fun of Muhammad.
    • Kab bin al-Ashraf was murdered for voicing his opinion against Muhammad.
    • `Asma' Bint Marwan was murdered for speaking out against Muhammad for murdering Abu Afak.
    Muhammad had these people murdered. The Pakistani's are merely following the example set by their bloody "prophet."

    Here's a more full explanation from the Peace FAQ:
    How did Muhammad set the example for the way Islam deals with dissenters and critics?

    * Prophet Muhammad and His Mockers: Assassination and Islam

    From "The Life of Muhammad"

    The poets of old Arabia were equivalent to our TV presenters. They tended to make fun of Muhammad and his claims of prophethood. Muhammad was determined to eliminate this mockery.

    Muhammad was sorely tried by several poets. One was Asma bint Marwan. When her latest verses were recited to the Prophet, he cried out, "Will no one rid me of this daughter of Marwan?" Umayr ibn Ali, a clansman of hers volunteered. That night she was sleeping, her youngest child still at her breast, when her clansman thrust his sword through her. On that day new converts were won as they could see the power of Islam.24

    A month later an almost identical situation occurred. This time it was the poet Abu Afak, reputedly over a hundred years old, who raised the Prophet's ire. Muhammad exclaimed: "Who will avenge me on this scoundrel?" and Salim ibn Umayr was the helper of God.

    A poet, Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf who was partly Jewish was deeply upset by Muhammad's actions. Ka'b went to Mecca to agitate the Quraysh against the Prophet, who determined to rid himself of Ka'b and his satire. Kab's foster-brother and some accomplices pretended that they were conspiring against the Prophet so that they could lure Ka'b out of his fortress. They succeeded in tbis and having killed him exultantly presented the head of Ka'b to the Prophet.

    Muhammad's old enemy, Abu Jahl was killed and his head brought triumphantly to him. The Muslims lost fifteen dead but the Meccans about seventy and, in addition about the same number were captured. Two of these the Prophet had executed-Nadr for laughing at him and his divine revelations and Uqba for throwing offal at him in Mecca. When Uqba asked him, "But who will take care of my sons, Muhammad?", he answered him "Hell!"24

    The worst five mockers of Muhammad had been warned in Revelation thus: "We shall suffice thee against the mockers who worship another god with Allah; they will know." 11 Indeed they did find out. Gabriel came to the Prophet while the five were ambulating around the Ka'bah. "When the first mocker passed by, Gabriel threw a green leaf in his face and he became blind. He pointed to the abdomen of the second, who died of dropsy. The third had a scar on his heel which opened again and killed him. When the fourth passed by he pointed to the soul of his foot, and thereupon a thorn penetrated it and the man died. When the fifth man passed by Gabriel pointed to his head and it began to ferment with poison and he died." 12

    Aba Dawud Book 38, Number 4348 A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet and disparage him. He took a dagger and killed her Judging him, the Prophet said, " Oh be a witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood." And similarly (38A349) "A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet. A man strangled her till she died The Apostle of Allah declared that no recompense was payable for her blood." ​
     
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  3. miscsoft

    miscsoft Peon

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    #23
    now pardon my ignorance, is sharia law is from mars.

    i am a hindu, theres no such thing as blasphemy in my religion.

    as wise men says, only change is constant. i suppose you are not wearing the same pants which you donned when you were 2 years old.

    yes ofcource there must be. but what the ratio. if all religion put together kills 1 man there will be instances of 100 guys getting killed in islam. of course the numbers are arbitrary, but folks pls pardon me if i am being optimistic.
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

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    #24
    The Ramadan Scorecard provides a useful guide.

    During Ramadan 2010, Muslims murdered 1,028 people in 226 separate attacks for religious purposes.

    During the same time period, members of all other religions murdered 1 person in 1 attack for religious purposes.
     
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    #25
    my apologies again for me being optimistic.
     
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  6. Vebtools

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    #26
    read post number 13 again and again http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2005960&p=15323709#post15323709

    i think Manusmriti is the part of Hindunism too.

    “If a man born of a lower class intentionally bothers a priest, the king should punish him physically with various forms of corporal and capital punishment that make men shudder.” [Manusmriti 9:248]

    BTW when you have some time read Manusmriti complete to see what is actually Hindunism


    Tell that wise men that dont change her mother or father too or may be kids or i think he should also changed his cloths and try wise women cloths.

    I dont think soo.

    Check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PrfP46mTLU may be help you
     
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  7. miscsoft

    miscsoft Peon

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    #27
    now pardon my ignorance again, but i think the below quote is from the quran only.


    the above just proved your ignorance regarding hinduism. hinduism is a functional religion, unlike islam or christanity, which are theological in nature and as such no one piece of work can be attributed to hinduism. there is no bible or quran in hinuism. this is a fundamental difference between islam/christanity and hinduism.

    taking about manusmriti, its book of law on how the king should rule and was written in between 200BCE - 200CE. you can find many such works written through ages, like arthashastra by chanakya which was written during the mauryan rule.

    you muslims want revert back to the cave age and want implement sharia and think everybody want to revert back to the cave age. but as i said only change is constant and we upgrade accordingly.

    and for your perusal heres some link about the tenets of manusmriti, go through it, and if possible go through arthashastra.

    http://www.hinduwebsite.com/sacredscripts/hinduism/dharma/manusmriti_1.asp
    http://www.hinduwebsite.com/sacredscripts/hinduism/dharma/manusmriti_2.asp

    yes ofcourse we shouldnt change. we should still say the world is flat, hunt witches, travel on a donkey and marry children.

    what does the vdo proves?? its a typical propaganda vdo.
     
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  8. Laceygirl

    Laceygirl Notable Member

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    #28
    What's the point of this topic?
    Oh, I think I got it.

    Qari Salim is one mean d00d, I think.
     
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    #29
    we Muslims have to ponder this question: "is Islam comply with human right"? we have to think about what other people as will spencer, Miscsoft show us wheather they weren't Muslim.
    we are living in 21 century.
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/karim_marry_christians.htm


    we always complain about discrimination in western country againest Muslims whereas they never look at us as unclean (religiously) although some Muslims not smell good.
    the behaivore with that christian mother in Pakistan was unbearable I think.

    miscsoft was right that woman is main victim. anyway that lady was so lucky that is alive, shamfull.
     
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    #30
    I always enjoy reading your posts. I make no secret of the fact I despise Muslims generally, but you are an exception to that. Really great post :)
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

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    #31
    This is an important point. Those of us who are steeped in Abrahamic religions really have to stretch our brains to understand Hinduism and Buddhism.

    Osama bin Laden is as easy for me to understand as any church elder I grew up with. The differences between the three Abrahamic religions, although they often seem large, are miniscule compared to how different the Abrahamic religions are from Hinduism and Buddhism.
     
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    #32
    thanks Alexis. I'm not especial or particular guy. unfortunately in Muslim world most of people aren't able to chat in English.
     
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    satguy Well-Known Member

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    #33
    They will soon be just like us in the west,, They are just 400 years behind us,,, Hell, we once burned women alive at the Stake for having a black cat as a pet...
     
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    #34
    There is so much hatred against muslims. I wonder how do they live in this world.
     
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    #35
    I don't if they are hated,,, I can only speak for where I am from,, I'm Irish.. we are friends to all.. Because we know what is is like to have a bigger stronger neighbour stand over you with a big stick..
     
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    #36
    And who are those strong neighbours.
     
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    #37
    I don't know why either, since Muslims are such peaceful people...
     
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    #38
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    #39
    ya the woman is very lucky. hope she could lead a peaceful life.

    agreed.

    here in this part of the world, most of the guys (muslims) i met are just like any other guy. currently i am working with an iranian (though he stayed long in the US). such a understanding and lovely guy.

    ya, its so multi-layered. the ramayana and mahabharata which i read in my childhood is so different from the one which i read now.
     
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    #40
    In the U.S., there are no Iranians. I have an interest in accents, so I frequently ask people where there are from. Not one person has ever responded "Iran" -- but a lot of people respond that they are from Persia. :D
     
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