Is WW3 Right Around The Corner?

It would be a waste of life for the U.S to go into Iran. The Iranian people are don't deserve it. Iran is the west of the middle east IMO... Its a shame that a president would bring so much harm to such a great country, because of his hate for the west. This tyrant needs to be removed from power, and the Russians need to get out of Iran also... You said before...

And that's what Russia want's, Russia don't want a nuclear Iran close to their borders either, but they do it on purpose to try and use Iran as a proxy to start a war with the west and make a hefty profit in the process. Ahmadinejad is a coward for allowing Russia to take advantage of the people of Iran Like that...

Alot of Muslims say, "well the news in the west is a conspiracy, they have an agenda" and I tell you what. agenda or not, bias news, is better then no news... We in the west see how Ahmadinejad treats the Iranian people. Execution rates have been 400% since hes been in office. We see it all....

[video=youtube;E5z7Wm37ru0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5z7Wm37ru0[/video]

We see the millions of protesters that protest his hijacking of the presidency...

[video=youtube;nifgnonH-BU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nifgnonH-BU[/video]

It's just a shame that Ahmadinejad is leading us into a war that nobody wins... In America we won our freedom from sacrificing our blood, and Iran Really need to rid this tyrant, before he sets off ww3

Ahmadinejad is a terrorist who use's Iranian money to fund other terrorist groups...

 

The proper response is to work with all the leaders in avoiding conflict.

The best way to deal with Iran on a global basis is to understand their reasoning and in this event the solution is to equalize the conflict by requiring Israel to concede their nuclear weapons and have them removed from that country to negate Ahmaddinejad.

There are no real religious leaders that do not understand that the cataclysm will be their final judgment that no one will escape in punishment - allowing the triumph of evil is the same as being evil.

 

It's a no win situation really, how can you tell a country to disarm, when everybody around you is calling for you to be wiped off the map. If it wasn't for the U.S, Israel would have already been wiped off the face of the earth... We're at a point of no return, there will never be peace again, impossible...

 

Too bad i'm joining the IDF next year..

 

It's difficult to force the American hand. They can just sit idly by -- even under the threat of nuclear blackmail. The initial threat is to America's allies, not to America directly.

Plus, even if the United States does go to war, they might not invade. They might simply bomb and shell the Iranian government out of existence and then expect the Iranian people to pick up the pieces.

Ahmadinejad is just a front man. He has little real power. The power is held by a group of Mullahs that we in the West almost never hear about.

 

Israel should not be disarmed but they themselves should dismantle their nuclear weapons as an example that they do not place themselves above their Creator. They were told to wonder not without nation but rather than as a threat to Earth. They now have defied the Almighty and have no religion for further existence.

There is a difference in their own defense and the defense of the Garden they were given to live in.

As you said the US is there to help and others when a worthy cause.

 

We'll see. I'm much more worried about martial law with the collapse of the USA. This TSA "don't touch my junk" business seems like one more small step towards it.

 

I guess if you diminish your oil consume and oil price, these tyrants will be disappear gradually in Iran, Saudi, Russia and Venezuela.
it's not easy to fight with such regimens when they have a lot of money in their hand. personally I don't want to be a sacrifice and hero, I have good life that don't want to lose it.

thanks for information and links. I think western medias see things according to their view and Muslims in their way and it bring a big gap in two worlds.

 

I agree with this, they will end up bombing them like crazy. Ahmadinejad will force Americas hand in this by attacking its allies. The main thing that worries me is what will Russia and China do, if the U.S attacks Iran, that's when it turns nuclear...

 

Taming oil consumption will not get rid of these tyrants, without oil some of the countries would have nothing to sell, only the people of those countries can do it... loving life is a great thing, but sometimes loving freedom is even better...

You say you love your life, but Bin Laden says "Muslims love death". It's easy to say Muslims love death when you yourself are hiding from house to house trying to save your own behind. It's easy to say Muslims love death, when you yourself are sending millions of innocent Muslims to their death. It's easy to say Muslims love death, when the only time you become a martyr is when a bomb finally catches up to you... I'm not a religious person and don't knock a person for being religious, but you don't have to be religious to know something is wrong...

You say you love your life, and we already know this. We Americans live a great life, but most Muslims countries wont know this because their leaders won't allow them to see this. Just ask people from the U.k, ask the Aussies how Americans live, they will tell you, they enjoy the same freedoms we do. Freedom is bliss my friend...

We already see the Iranian people rising up and being persecuted by the regime in Iran, but that is how freedom is obtained. The U.S didn't kill the economy in Iran, the Regime there did, by sending your money to Hezbollah. The U.K didn't kill Irans economy, it is Ahmadinejad refusal to become part of the world community, instead he chooses the world stage to show boat himself and make a jackass out of himself. Instead of Iran trading in the global market, the regime keeps them out of the global market, because they don't want Iran to see what freedom is like...

I am going to tell you the truth, the only reason why Iran is under the cross hairs of many nukes right now. It is because the regime in Iran does not want Iran to be like the west. Iran is full of free thinkers, and great think tanks, and "Allah Forbid" that Iran becomes the first true democracy in the Middle east. The regime rather have Iran bombed back to the stone age, before they allow them to be free. The don't want a college kid to win an election, because then they cannot hand pick their own president. I see Iran just like us, except they are being repressed by a regime who wants them to live in the past. If the people of Iran are allowed to elect and hold their government accountable when things go wrong, then they would be out of a job, that's why they repress and brain wash the people...

You said the death to America chants is old, and I believe you, but I want to repost the video to show you what I see. I see the people of Iran being brain washed, its as plain as day. Before Ahmadinejad even comes out to give his speech, they are programming the people of Iran. let me guess, Ahmadinejad speech is going to be about death to America and Israel????

[video=youtube;CUezKsBCRbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUezKsBCRbk&feature=&p=C972FE44365C17EF&index=0&playnext=1[/video]

100% pure brain washing my friend....

Iran sits on 10% of the worlds oil reserves, and the U.S only has 2%. The west buys most of the oil from these tyrants, and where does the money go?? The only time an oil rich country goes broke is when the regimes use the money for their own purposes.

Here is the voice of freedom, where the military fights for the people, not against the people...

[video=youtube;9ETrr-XHBjE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETrr-XHBjE&feature=related[/video]

If your military is busy killing and beating their own people for protesting, then you have no freedom...

 

This makes so much sense doesn't it. So all Westerners and Muslims must die to obtain peace?

All this is about oil by the way, Iran is rich in oil, and just like Afghanistan and Iraq if they go to war it will another big mistake, Obama shalt be added to the garbage bin of history.

 

Makes perfect sense, that's what it's going to take... You don't expect both sides to gather around the fire and sing cumba-ya anytime soon do you? You can throw your peace pipes away, There will NEVER peace on this earth again, that is a FACT... The west will never give in to Muslim beliefs and neither will the Muslims give in to the West beliefs... Peace will come in at the tip of a nuclear war head, unfortunately... When we are all living in caves again...

 

So who has to remain then for peace?

And why can't imperialists leave Muslim lands, what's so special about Muslim lands, don't you think Westerners should get oil by normal means?

 

Without the west the middle east would have no money, who do you think buys all this oil? Nobody takes oil by force, like you say. Saddam tried to take oil by force, and look what happened to him... Blaming the west for the problems in Muslim countries is an excuse...

 

Sir will you answer my questions?

Who who has to remain then for peace?

And why can't imperialists leave Muslim lands, what's so special about Muslim lands, don't you think Westerners should get oil by normal means?

And since you brought it up, there are plenty people in the world to do business with, Muslims do not need American dollars in any shape or form, further more I don't give a damn about Saddam and finally yes they do take oil by force, and it's not just limited to oil.

 

To answer your question it will take the extinction of man to be peace. Men have been going to war since the begging of time, that will never change... Second its called Globalization, get with the times... Third, NO there isn't plenty of people to do business with, most countries don't condone the way Muslims are being treated by other Muslims... And yes you do need American dollars, that's why you sell oil to America, and accept U.S dollars into your paypal... I've done business with many Muslims here, and never had any problems with them accepting payments in USD, as a matter of fact, they wont do business unless I pay in USD, so don't be a hypocrite...

 

I'm glad you agree that Muslim lands are being occupied for no other reason that oil and other resources.

Secondly you are welcome to do business, that's not the issue but don't steal, the so called 911 hijackers were not Afghan, and Iraq had nothing to do with it, and Iran say they have no nuclear bomb, and the Palestinians lived in Palestine before the Zionists came and occupied them, your t.v. channels are working hard to cover things up, but the people are rising in your own countries and they are finally opening their eyes.

Even if their plan is to nuke the middle east to peaces the fast growing Muslims in the west will outnumber all other groups very soon, which city in the West will have the first Muslim Majority in the West, will it be Paris, Amsterdam, New York, Brussels? Even the hardworking Zionists, I feel so sorry for them that Palestinians will be majority again just by birthrates in a matter of decades.

So you can plan and plot and shout and scream, nothing will work against the Muslims.

When you said that all man should die, this shows your confusion, you don't know the good people from the bad, you are only complaining not knowing what to do or where to run to.

 

It is commanded in the Quran.

Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.​

Muhammad commanded eternal war until all of the world was under Islamic rule. The very name for non-Islamic lands, Dar al-Harb, means "House of War." To the Muslims, every free person on the planet is simply a slave who has not yet been chained.

Peace and Islam are fundamentally incompatible.

 

I never said I agreed the U.S are on Muslim lands for oil? I am not Muslim so all that "Muslims will be the majority" B.S is just that, B.S to me... To hear you talk like that only tells me that Muslims want to rule the world so bad. That will never happen... Good luck trying to convince the world to switch to a religion that is based on sex and murder... While the promise of 72 virgins, will convince some horny men to convert, it won't convince them all... My penis does not tell me what to do, I tell it what to do

 

(28. O you who believe! Verily, the Mushrikin are impure. So let them not come near Al-Masjid Al-Haram after this year; and if you fear poverty, Allah will enrich you if He wills, out of His bounty. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.) (29. Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth among the People of the Scripture, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.)

Read it in context (see highlighted text).

Further explanation:

Allah commands His believing servants, who are pure in religion and person, to expel the idolators who are filthy in the religious sense, from Al-Masjid Al-Haram. After the revelation of this Ayah, idolators were no longer allowed to go near the Masjid. This Ayah was revealed in the ninth year of Hijrah. The Messenger of Allah sent `Ali in the company of Abu Bakr that year to publicize to the idolators that no Mushrik will be allowed to perform Hajj after that year, nor a naked person allowed to perform Tawaf around the House.


You are an ignorant man, and I shall end this with you now, no point debating ignoramuses.