Advice for CPM program

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by idzone, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. #1
    We are applying to cpm programs for an entertainment website on behalf of a client.
    Our client wants a fast paying program.
    The website is new (without pr) but already pulling in traffic from search engines - 4k uniques a day and some 30k page views.

    Valueclick, casale, tribal fusion have not accepted it. Maybe because there are quite a few similar websites.
    Adtegrity pays after 60 days and Burstmedia pays after 90 days.
    So both are out.
    We ran CPXinteractive for this site, but it gives way too low CPM rates.
    We applied to Gorilla Nation, but haven't received a reply.

    We have applied to Axill, but their customer service seems to be too slow. They take 3-4 days to reply to an email.

    Any other good CPM programs, we could consider?
    Fast payouts and good CPM rates is the main criteria.
    I would be glad with an early reply.

    PS - Maybe I should have posted this in General Marketing. If so, can a mod move this thread?
     
    idzone, Sep 27, 2006 IP
  2. jameskon

    jameskon Well-Known Member

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    Try clicksor they provide online support.. you can check with them at http://clicksor.com/internet_advertising.php
     
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    webmoney Well-Known Member

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  4. idzone

    idzone Active Member

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    I am looking for leaderboards and tower banners.
    120x600 - 728x90

    I have heard bad reports of clicksor.
    And for adversal, on DP, there is a thread running where people praised it first and at the end people have been writing about having problems with them.

    What do I do?
    Any other suggestions?
     
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  5. Coupons

    Coupons Active Member

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    And CPM is the only alternative for you? I have sites since 2000, and I only work with affiliate programs and Adsense. If you traffic convert, it's much better. If it doesn't, I guess those CPM programs will drop your site :(
     
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  6. webmoney

    webmoney Well-Known Member

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    That is right, if you have SE traffic or in better case you have special niche than you just go with the affiliate program. Just think that you put there some Skyscraper from CPM company and they will put there some ads. There is not easier way than put there your own affiliate link straight to the same company or some similar. If it matches your niche than pay per sale will make you more money than CPM. Maybe CPA are middle way because you just need people to register usualy for free with valid email and than you get few dollars.
     
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    Coupons Active Member

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    That's right! If CPC and CPM were the best, why would I advertise as an affiliate in those? ;) It means I make a profit, so if they used the same affiliate programs they would earn even more, because they didn't have to pay for those clicks or views.
     
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  8. ticksoft

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    CPM is all about taking the effort away from the publisher and placing it on the network/advertiser, allowing the publisher to concentrate on what he/she does best. If your site becomes well known within the industry then advertisers approaching you... CPM is the only language they are used to dealing with.

    If you want to get into Gorilla Nation, then make your website look as impressive as possible. They are a rep firm these days - not an ad network - so all they'll be doing is pitching your website to industry advertisers. If the site looks naff or you don't have enough traffic then you wont do well with them - even if you get in.
     
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  9. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    If you can't get into Valueclick, Casale, and TF, then the problem is your SITE. You must have adult content, correct?
     
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  10. idzone

    idzone Active Member

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    Not at all. I said it is an entertainment site + stuff for myspace users too.
    Tribal has high requirements. Casale, they have been offered similar sites hence refusing all. Valueclick alone knows why it refuses sites.

    Can anyone suggest good CPM programs other than the ones I quoted above?
    The site has good traffic now - 6k uniques + 50k views a day.
     
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  11. idzone

    idzone Active Member

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    Found this list in greg-j's forum -
    Should be useful to other people too. Apart from obvious names, can someone point out good names with fast payouts?

    24/7 RealMedia
    AdAgency 1
    AdDynamix
    AdPepper
    ADServing Network
    Adsmart
    Adtegrity
    Adversal
    AdZuba
    Accelerator Media
    Axill
    BannerConnect
    BardzoMedia
    BlueLithium
    Burst Media
    CPX Interactive/Budsinc
    Casale Media
    Directa Networks
    Esource Media
    Etype-Europe
    EtypeUSA
    FastClick
    HurricaneDigitalMedia
    Interclick
    JoeTec
    Oridian
    Paypopup
    Popup Traffic
    RealCastMedia
    RealTech Network
    RightMedia
    Rydium
    Tremor Network
    Tribal Fusion
     
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  12. alexisthemovie

    alexisthemovie Peon

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    lol my list... axill pays out daily. get your site under 100k alexa (the stupid tool they use to measure your traffic) and you'll most likely be in if it abides by the terms.
     
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  13. idzone

    idzone Active Member

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    It is a good list. Thanks.

    Axill approved one of our sites. Now, I have written them 3-4 mails asking if i can put their codes in other sites or do i need individual permissions?
    They haven't replied to a single mail.

    I wrote from another email id too, just in case the 1st is getting blocked. Lets see. I hope to get a reply on monday/tuesday.

    But axill cpm is 0.3
    Is a better cpm company out there which pays net 15 / 30?
     
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    alexisthemovie Peon

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    $0.3 is good for banners
     
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    We started a site in 1994 that sold the first ads in its niche (food/travel). We tried most of the ad networks out there at one time or another. Our experience (and YMMV) has been that ad networks are difficult income sources. They depend on the advertisers to pay them, that cycle can be 60-90 days, and sometimes there are other middlemen and middlewomen in between. I've seen a number of networks go under before we ever got paid. Unless its a big player (like Google AdSense) which doesn't use middlepeople and pays promptly, we have eschewed all networks. We sell ads for the site directly and all our direct advertisers pay in advance (we have great niche traffic--and some of our advertisers have continued with us for years). I understand you don't have the luxury of our longevity, so I recommend that you ask the ad network for client references. If they won't give them to you, I'm willing to bet you won't get paid promptly (or at all) after you sign up...

    But maybe you'll be lucky and find the exception.
     
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    Fahd Well-Known Member

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    I would suggest you join the YieldManager marketplace and link with a few reputed companies!
     
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    Axill requires you apply separately for all your sites, so that means different codes for different sites. They are very unprofessional (they used to pay via personal checks, if you can believe it), and their CP is incrediblye clumsy and hard to use. I keep bugging them to merge all my accounts, but they simply don't know how, or refuse to do so. But they DO pay, so that's something...
     
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  18. paddy

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    Try Casale again.

    When we first applied, it was rejected. After 1-2 months we applied again, describing our site in more detail and it was accepted.
     
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  19. idzone

    idzone Active Member

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    Something I noticed about axill.
    A) The Ad banner refreshes every minute or two. Which is really bad.
    B) If you keep a page idle for 10 mins or so, the ad refreshes quite a few times. And now, if you press the browser back button, the page does not go back, but the previous ad appears and so on till the 1st ad. And after that the previous page in history comes.

    This is really very bad and users will not like it at all.


    BTW -
    Any opinions about interclick, realtech n/w and mamma media?
     
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    Wow, I always thought that was because of my browser. Never realised that it was because of my axill banners :/
     
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