Single Vs Double OPt-in mailing lists?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by balkanboy82, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. #1
    I am trying to decide between single and double opt-in mailing list. In both cases, I will go with aWeber.

    1. Single Opt-in

    People fill the form and they are instantly in mailing list - no confirmation mail they have to open and click the link to be in.

    Disadvantage: More people will get the email in spam folder.

    2. Double Opt-in

    After signing up, they have to click the link from confirmation email.

    Disadvantage: Many people will not be logged in into email and therefore skip the email and never make it to your list.

    Advantage: More emails will make it to inbox than in first case.

    Comparison:

    Some guy posted on his blog that in first case, only 3% of people will get email in spam folder and in second case 50-60% will miss the confirmation link.

    What are your experiences with this? I prefer to hear test results over blind assumptions.

    Thanks
     
    balkanboy82, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  2. topcash

    topcash Peon Affiliate Manager

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    #2
    You will have much better results down the road with a double opt in list.
     
    topcash, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  3. herok

    herok Guest

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    #3
    I personnaly use Double opt in.

    Aweber officially states below in their site.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    Confirmed Opt-in Status We strongly recommend leaving confirmed opt-in ON.
    All subscribe methods require Confirmed Opt-In to ensure only recipients who have specifically requested to be on the list are subscribed.
    This means you have proof someone opted-in, fewer unsubscribe requests and far fewer spam complaints.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    A big name marketer stated in his video that his Double Optin non confirming rate is 30 to 40%.
    My case is maximum 20%
     
    herok, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  4. sith005

    sith005 Peon

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    #4
    Double opt-in will give you better results. Even if the mail doesn't end up in spam filter, people who complete a double opt in are more likely to remain on your list or open your items. You can try both and test for yourself and stick with what you get better results with. Personally I only use double opt-in as I get far better results. If you are planning on a list you are going to burn quickly, you may be ok with single opt-in.
     
    sith005, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  5. Richie_Ni

    Richie_Ni Illustrious Member

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    Both have cons and pros but I've always used double opt-in, less complain.
     
    Richie_Ni, Nov 12, 2010 IP
  6. smile633

    smile633 Peon

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    Double opt-in is MUCH better. You don't want any hassles, but satisfied customers.
     
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  7. balkanboy82

    balkanboy82 Well-Known Member

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    #7
    Well this is kind of what I need. I don't plan on sending multiple emails, rather collect very targeted list, send my aff. link to product they are targeted to and end of story.

    So if I want to email them only once, what do your recommend in that case?

    Thanks for all the answers so far.
     
    balkanboy82, Nov 13, 2010 IP
  8. zetronix

    zetronix Peon

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    not all single opt-ins emails lands in the junk folder so logically you would have more recipients.
     
    zetronix, Nov 15, 2010 IP
  9. new2dp

    new2dp Member

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    #9
    i prefer double opt-in

    if someone is not willing to check and click the link for the stuff anyways he/she is not a good prospect.

    its me though,
     
    new2dp, Nov 15, 2010 IP
  10. senec

    senec Peon

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    #10
    I use double opt-in on 90% sites, because it just work better (on my 3 years mailing experience).
     
    senec, Nov 15, 2010 IP
  11. Tulasu

    Tulasu Peon

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    #11
    Very curious as to why you would only email the list once?? The vast majority of people will be reminded of a product 5 to 10 times before making a purchase. If you only mail them once, you are doing both your list and yourself a big disservice.
     
    Tulasu, Nov 15, 2010 IP
  12. balkanboy82

    balkanboy82 Well-Known Member

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    #12
    I have been thinking to send them to Facebook fan page because having new people joining goes viral and it grows on it's own. Also having them as fans is the same thing as mailing list, maybe even better.

    Do you think this idea sucks?
     
    balkanboy82, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  13. Tulasu

    Tulasu Peon

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    #13
    Well, no. That might be a good idea for building a list, too. But 'building' a list is only the first part of the equation. Follow up with the list is equally as important. It's where the sales are made.

    Many people have developed what's called 'relationship' marketing... you build a relationship with your people who come to realize that you are trustworthy and that you have their interests at heart, too, not just your own. Of course, it works best if that's true. lol

    As a result, you gain a solid clientele that leads to repeat sales and residual income.
     
    Tulasu, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  14. sith005

    sith005 Peon

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    I agree, I was going to ask the question as well. If you simply will send the user to the offer one time, or send one offer, there isn't much need for the list in general. When I think of burning the list, I usually think of sending offers to the list right away, then sending one or two follow ups. That usually makes the list less useful in the long run because trust isn't there. However I now sent each user to an offer 2-4 times instead of just once. So people who missed my first e-mail may are able to see the follow ups, etc.

    The Facebook fan page is a good idea, they can be very effective. If possible, use both. If you are marketing to a group of people based on a common theme (i.e. fans of a band, people who want to get a six pack, etc), you can use the fan page as another means of building your list in addition to search traffic, twitter traffic, forum traffic, etc.

    The power of a list is in the ability to market to the same people on multiple occasions while building a relationship with them, making them more likely to follow through on your offers.
     
    sith005, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  15. Tulasu

    Tulasu Peon

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    #15
    For sure. And if you look around... some of the best marketers have an ezine of some sort they send to their list on a regular basis. They will include articles that relate to the interest of their list providing informative content, not just sales spiel on another product.
     
    Tulasu, Nov 16, 2010 IP
  16. balkanboy82

    balkanboy82 Well-Known Member

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    #16
    Mailing lists is method that exists for more than 10 years now.

    Newest information is that Facebook gets 25% of USA page views, which means people check Facebook more often than email.

    Advantages: they just need to click like to be able to receive updates, no spam folders, you see exactly who they are etc.

    Time to move on from mailing lists I guess, and this is what I am going to do.

    Thanks for the tips everybody.
     
    balkanboy82, Nov 21, 2010 IP
  17. sith005

    sith005 Peon

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    You have a good point. Just remember, in the end this is a numbers game. So regardless of whether you are rolling with FB pages or e-mail, or both. The more the better! Good luck, and glad to help!
     
    sith005, Nov 22, 2010 IP
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    Seqqa Well-Known Member

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    #18
    Double opt-in for sure.

    Many of the disadvantages you state can be worked around some what.
     
    Seqqa, Nov 25, 2010 IP