Co-founder of Hamas: Westerns live like animals

(in this context: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/3211772.stm , well that was before Hamas took control. Now gays are being executed in the city main squares in front of a cheering crowd.)

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...f-supporting-israel-hamas-tells-west-1.321620

 

Yeah, people who believe in stoning to death and killing for honor are of high moral caliber

 

I'm such an animal

 

homosexuality has been some issue that's totally against the Islam & it fundamentalists, and these lunatics would step into any level to exhibit their arrogance - which is a total abuse of the power.

 

And yet in the West... most homosexuals vote for left wing political parties which preach submission to global Islamic domination. Politics is hilarious.

 

because right wing parties are so sympathetic with homosexuals...

 

It's the right-wing parties which are protecting their right to live, even though they may not approve of their lifestyles.

 

couldn't see the links but these three sentences show the view of typical middle eastern who aren't familiar with western society.
don't want to justify such superficial aspects but anyway most of middle eastern think that western communities no longer respect family value. what you anticipate when see a lot of happy gay parade by European in TVs and also some leaders like Berlusconi attitude, Sarkozy divorced her wife and married a manikin, and also scandals in England royal family.


I guess this is a mutual misunderstanding; many European and American haven't good aspect of Middle East either. What do you think about Iran when see Ahmadinejad?

 

Interesting post, and accurate I suspect. When betaturn decided to vomit his love for stoning women to death all over this forum while at the same time claiming to speak for Islam, I decided to look around a bit for information on how big of a group he actually represents. What I found was this, though it is paid content that I am probably not going to fork over the bucks to gain access to.

It is basically a survey of Muslims that goes country by country asking what percentage of them think their country should be governed by Sharia. The summary of the findings is definitely worth a read. It turns out that only 12% of male and 14% of female Muslims in Iran, a country perceived by most westerners as having scary and radical leadership, desire Sharia law. This down from Egypt where 70% of men and 62% of women feel that Sharia should be the only source of law.

To put the numbers in perspective, they offered some comparative analysis to Christians in america:

Without debating the merits of bible based legislation vs Qu'ran based legislation, I would guess that most Christian Americans would view the idea of the bible being the only source of legislation as idiotic. I see that statistic coinciding with the fact that there will always be around 10% of the population in any country that will buy just about anything, whether it is the idea that Elvis is still alive, the moon landing was a hoax, or that Bush planned 9-11.

My take away from it all was two things: 1) An educated population is the best defense against totalitarianism. 2) People like betaturn speak for a small but statistically significant enough group of people to be extremely scary.

Perhaps the brightest and most hopeful part of the survey summary was this tidbit:

 

thanks for this brilliant post, glad some one search for reality in the world. democrasy could prevent extremist I think.

 

The Difference? If the bible was the only source of legislation people won't be tortured with a screwdriver as opposed to this Iran 12% business.

So romantic!

12% is not an only thing, ok. A 12% violent rate is unbelievably horrible. With that rate there's slim to no chance to bother with trying to straighten out Iran. Its done.

I have a really hard time with thinking Iran should get the opportunity to survive a nucleur missle if they can't get their crap together enough to drop the small but statistically significant enough group of people who are extremely scary.

Hey, no making fun of the 10%. After a long research I'm heavy on the moon landing was indeed a hoax. That rippling flag thing was a good one. Exspecially considering that 1000's of pictures where taken of that flag and the dumb thing was still blowing in the wind. What, you think the dudes waved it, took a picture, then kept doing that all day!
Maybe I should not have brought this up. lol.

 

You go to be kidding . Right ?

 

Irony.............

 

I'm sorry, not this time. There is some serious evidence surrounding it. More than you probably know about.(not to mention how pumped NASA was on the 2nd landing which was decades later sure helped me wonder why they were acting like it was the first time). If you wanna go then you'll have to start a new topic, there's no reason to tell you about how NASA Destroyed many of the moon rocks found as they were found to be the same as meteorites collected from Antarctica. (Busted!) good thing they destroyed them fast.

I am a serious NASA hater.

 

Then please answer this . If the yanquis didn't landed on the moon why didn't the soviet comrades blow the hole thing open and put them to shame . After all the moon landing was the apogee of the space-peins race . The Moon landing was broadcasted live worldwide (including in the iron curtain). Why would the soviets or Chinese let the US bolster about being the 1st to put a man on the moon ?

 

I sometimes wonder if I am the only one not smoking crack

 

Not that I buy the conspiracy theory but at that time USSR didn't have the capabilities to track deep space vehicles, interestingly immediately after USSR could track them, the next 3 appolo missions were cancelled.

 

I wouldn't of. If you express opinions that conflict with facts, you should expect to be made fun of, unless you have a serious case to make based on other facts. The lunar landing hoax people have been pretty thoroughly debunked.

That 10% number doesn't just apply to nice, friendly, fluffy things like whether Elvis is still alive you know. I'd say we are way over that number here in the US, regarding the percentage of people who believe in the supremacy of their own race, and violent dominance of other races. Groups like La Raza are even given political credibility by some mainstream politicians. I'm sure you aren't thinking we should nuke ourselves because of the idiotic 10% of our own population, especially considering you may make up some of that 10% on certain scales. If you wanted to nuke Iran because their leadership is building nukes to use on their neighbors, thats an entirely different discussion.

 

Go ahead and start a topic about it then and prepare to get blown away. There are tons of weird things going on in the pictures and all I've seen for reasons are a bunch of random(they might have) excusses. Hell, there still isn't a clear photo of the left junk on the moon from Nasa. You'd think by now they'd just get one.

Sure, but that's just random petty evidence that could simply be a coincidence.

I'm sorry, your right. not nuke yourselves, but it wouldn't hurt to just start wiping out the 10%.

 

No thanks.. That silly conspiracy theory has been beaten more than enough long before you were born.