No, Wikipedia didn't lie, you're just too stupid to read. Or, you are deliberately not reading. Or, you are pretending to be stupid in order to try to hide the plain facts. Not only did you fail to read Wikipedia, you failed to read the post to which you replied. As I explained, the 2004 hudna was unrelated to the 2003 hudna. Are you too stupid to understand the concept that Hamas lied twice? To quote Wikipedia: "The hudna started in late June 2003." For a much more detailed account of the complete meaningless of "hudna", read Details of Terror Attacks and Attempted Attacks since the June 29 -Hudna- Ceasefire - 12-Aug-2003
"Hudna" is simply a technique to gain time to re-arm and to enable attacks against victims who are fooled into believing that the Muslims want actual peace. For more on hudna, refer to Hudna With Hamas: Hudna has a distinct meaning to Islamic fundamentalists, well-versed in their history: The prophet Mohammad struck a legendary, ten-year hudna with the Quraysh tribe that controlled Mecca in the seventh century. Over the following two years, Mohammad rearmed and took advantage of a minor Quraysh infraction to break the hudna and launch the full conquest of Mecca, the holiest city in Islam. When Yassir Arafat infamously invoked Mohammad's hudna in 1994 to describe his own Oslo commitments "on the road to Jerusalem," the implication was clear. As Mideast expert Daniel Pipes explained, Arafat was asserting to his Islamic brethren that he will, "when his circumstances change for the better, take advantage of some technicality to tear up existing accords and launch a military assault on Israel." Indeed, this is precisely what occurred in Sept. 2000 when Arafat & Co. launched a terror assault upon Israeli citizens. As for Hamas, they have proven time and again their commitment to a tactical hudna — replenishing their strength during the quiet periods, then returning with increased deadliness. As recently documented by The Washington Institute, Hamas agreed to no less than ten ceasefires in the past ten years, and after every single one returned freshly armed for terror. Hundreds of Israeli citizens have paid for these hudnas with their lives.
Current Hudna is unrelated to whatever Hudnas were there in the past, you are just introducing a strawman and trying to knock it down. Since the Hudna of 2004, there has been no attacks on Israel since. - MENJ
I have serious doubts about your claim of being an atheist, you are just as bad as GTech, if not worse. Quoting from right-wing, pro-Israeli Christian sources. Amazing double standards. - MENJ
And from January 26, 2004. Could we agree on that? http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/terrorism...ms of palestinian violence and terrorism sinc So many to list, they wouldn't all fit here. Get the point? Nice way to start that hudna on the 26, with a nice suicide bombing on the 29th. You're defending the wrong side, menj.
You're changing the terms of the discussion in yet another moronic attempt to defend your friends the terrorist from the truth of their actions. Do you feel even the smallest pain of guilt when your friends gleefully murder innocent people to gain favor with your god? Luckily, GTech didn't even let you get away with this latest lie. You are so completely discredited -- I can't believe that you are still making up lies and posting them here. No one with any sense can any longer believe anything that you say.
That right wing neo con CNN even covered the January 29 suicide bombing, the one during the "hudna" http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/01/29/prisoner.exchange/ The ultra neo conservative wikipedia noted the February 22, 2004 suicide bombing during the "hudna" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_22,_2004 I like my denial with two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun. How about you?
Not "changing" anything. You were cornered when I showed that the current Hudna is from 2004, and you were also exposed for your reliance on pro-Israeli Christian Zionist material *(which I hardly consider to be worth anything). Do you even feel the smallest pain of guilt when your Zionist murderer scumbags gleefully murder the Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank, or with their recent rampage of terror in Beirut, Tyre, Sidon and Qana? You are so completely discredited -- I can't believe that you are still making up lies and posting them here. No one with any sense can any longer believe anything that you say. - MENJ
Oh my, not Christians -- how horrible! The shame! I am fraternizing with Christians! I will go straight to hell! Oh wait, I'm an Athiest, I don't believe in hell. What I do believe in is truth, and I am willing to take it from wherever I can find it. If you and your terrorist buddies had more respect for the truth, you both would rate higher in my esteem. Oh, and it would really help if they would stop murdering people.
Oh yeah, quoting the enemy. I do not even consider this as a valid source. Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Israel. Hah. That is like me posting references from Al-Qaeda. - MENJ
In a game of chess, you have to be several moves ahead of your contender. That's why I gathered sources for the first two in the list, which is accurate, from CNN and wikipedia. I anticipated your denial before you could actually post the denial. Crafty, eh?
Menji menji menji, anyone can read back in the thread and see that you're making stuff up now. Don't be the slow kid. When you're caught, fess up.
An Atheist Zionist. I guess there's a first for everything. I am not taking issue with the source because they are Christian, but because they are blatantly pro-Israeli Christian Zionist sources. Only someone who is rabidly pro-Israel would rely on such stupid sources as their gospel. - MENJ
You have been informed many times that my name is not "Menji". Indeed anyone can read how you refuse to accept that the current Hudna is from 2004, not 2003. I do not give a damned about previous Hudnas, AFAIK the current Hudna was imposed since 2004...and not 2003. - MENJ
The ultra-conservative neocon islamophobe BBC notes the March 14th 2004 suicide bombing: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1197051.stm
Sorry Menji, but you can't get up-to-date news from the Koran. We've quoted the CNN (The Communist New Network) and Wikipedia for you. Since you only seem to listen to terrorist organizations, are you all concerned that Hamas seems to be claiming responsibility for some of these attacks? Do you think that Hamas is lying about murdering innocent people, or telling the truth about murdering innocent people? Which would you consider a greater sin?
And here's the ultra-zionist Jewish Canadians, who actually start the story by blaming the Israeli's for responding to these attacks: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...16/20040316/?hub=TopStories&subhub=PrintStory March 16, 2004 The attack may indicate the start of a tough new Israeli offensive sparked by Sunday's double suicide bombing at the Israeli seaport of Ashdod. That bombing was carried out by the Islamic militant Hamas movement and the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a group with ties to the Fatah movement led by Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat and Prime Minister Ahmed Qureia.