Without sounding to be offensive, Let me tell you that I am in this industry for last 4 years now and I have just expressed my opinion here. I have never met someone who can be 100 % sure on what works with google and what not. We only learn from our experiments. What you are saying is based more on theory, what i am saying is based on practice and certainly my experience.
If you really wanted to test it then you'd have to run a fair test. The assumptions that you're basing it on do not make a fair and balanced experiment. You'd have to remove all other external factors from the sites in order to draw any conclusions.
This page is PR10 http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html (it's the Adobe Reader download page). How did it get PR10? Is it because all the inbound links are from pages about Adobe Reader. It's possible but I doubt it.
This is PR10 because on majority of pages from which it is linked, there will be some text related to adobe, adobe reader, download adobe acrobat etc. Thus although a site may be about software, but on a certain page of the site where they ask users to download adobe reader, the related content factor comes in to play immediately.
They are PR10 because almost every respectable site that offers PDF downloads has a link next to it like download Acrobat Reader. So the page has nothing to do with it, it's not related and nothing to do with content. It's just the sheer quantity of links that made it PR10. Do a link: on that page and you'll see. Same if you search Google for [click here] - then do a link: on the top result. It's QUANTITY! How can 'click here' be possibly related to anything?
I have sites with no inbound links atall with PR 3 and 4 home pages any logical explaination about it? How did google find my sites if they had no inbound links? I submitted it to google and I do it every month for all my sites. A site with 344 inlinks showing on google has a PR3 any explaination on that? I agree orignal content with just one inbound link from a reputed site with no pr on that particular page where the link s can get you an easy pr4 for your page provided your content is orignal. I have noticed that pages with copied conent from other sites take a lot longer to be indexed by google then pages with orignal content.My site which I launched 10 days ago has 12 pages indexed and I give the credit to orignal content PR I will get on that site is going to be 5 or 6 in the next jan/feb update for sure with only 300-400 inlinks, any bets? I am a noob at seo and would like you guys to correct me if I am wrong.
Very good point! But then, the link that ranks for 'click here' obviously has links from a lot of pages where they must be saying something like "click here to download acrobat"... blah blah.... so 'Click here' phrase is present as text and this text is placed quite near to that URL. Do you think if everybody used 'Click it' instead of 'Click here' on their pages, this page would have still managed to rank no.1 for click here and not for 'click it'.
Show us the URL and we will give you the explanation. Google is a domani registrar themselves so they have access to lists of registerered domains. Even without links, they can just crawl those lists. They also crawl based on toolbar data. So if you browse your 'secret' site with their toolbar, they'll know where it is. They also crawl from non-HTMLed links. So if you write your url.com in plain text somewhere, they're stil clever enough to add it to their crawl list.
That you don't know where your links are coming from. Post the sites here, and I'll show you who links to them. That the sites linking to them have low PR Oh god, I'm going to give up That's duplicate content issues and is unrelated to PR.
What about all the graphical links to the www.statcounter.com page? There is no 'relevant content' here, yet the linked page has PR=10.
That's not really anything to do with Pagerank though, that's the influence of anchor text on rankings. Tops point was that Adobe has a PR 10 with a very very small proportion of sites linking to it actually having anything to do with the target page. Again, as he, and I would argue, it's simply down to the cumulative number of links and PR that is sent to the page.
lolz@secret site one of the sites with pr3 with no links is sex-clip dot org and its been pr3 since the April update no changes what so ever. and the only link I have placed is on a site banned by google thats where the traffic comes from.
Hey Matt So does relevance of links not matter? PR6 backlink from a Tractor Website to my Bubblegum website is the same as PR6 from Chewing gum website to my Bubblegum site?
Too easy: https://siteexplorer.search.yahoo.c...p.org&bwm=i&bwmf=s&bwmo=&fr=sfp&fr2=seo-rd-se Sigh...
Here's what Matt will say It doesn't matter for PR. It DOES matter an AWFUL LOT for ranking. So do get relevant links fro ranking puproses but don't think you need relevant links to up your PR!
Yep, spot on what TOPs said, for PR it doesn't matter at all. For ranking in the SERPS (which is what you should be concentrating on) then relevance is very important. I wrote this a couple of months ago is you fancy a read - Is Pagerank Important?
If that IS the case I do find it surprising that Google does not do something about it. At the end of the day PR means squat but everyone loves to keep an eye on it and hope for an increase!! Looks like I better start contacting those tractor website for some HOT links to my bubblegum site