Google PR : Mystries and Myths

Discussion in 'Google' started by mirainfo, Oct 2, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hi All SEO Buddies,
    Finally the used to be long awaited PR update is done quick this time.

    As we all know there is no specific dating schedule for google PR update. Sometimes it takes 3 months and sometimes it is done in a month.

    But as our exprience goes on we can see that this is basically updated with an update in google algorithm. That is why we see substantial change in PR with most sites while some may stay normal.

    Well last time PR update was frustrating for most webmasters and SEO professionals. Some might have lost their clients as well because of a trastic fall on PR. Some sites which though increased their SERP got dropped in PR.

    But this time we all can see most of the sites have gained the PR. There is hardly anyone who lost PR. At the worst you might be as where you were.

    This is a good news. But this is a call to all white hat SEO guys. If you look deep into google algorithm you may do something real good and show the world.

    All the best friends :)

    It would be good for all of us if we share our feelings out here :)

    Cheers
    Mirainfo
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  2. Kaudo

    Kaudo Well-Known Member

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    #2
    If it is really the way they say, it is just a PR update.
    If the PR shift of your linkers is dramatical, it will also be reflected in your PR shift.
    Does it, anyway, have any influence on the SE results?
     
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  3. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    #3

    No atleast I never noticed it for any site. Under normal circustance a PR update has nothing to do with SE results.

    There can be sites with top rank on SE result but 0 PR. Similarly there can be sites with PR5 but bad SERP.

    But yes, if you have a good SERP and you get good hits through google result then you would definitly get a PR boost ;)
     
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  4. Kaudo

    Kaudo Well-Known Member

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    Based on their algo, yes, indirectly, if someone´s looking for info you top the SERPs and linking to your page later from their own, you´re right.
     
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  5. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    PR has one great advantage however and i.e. reputation. If your site has a high PR then the visitors consider that to be a great site and yes you too feel good about it ;)

    There are people who have low PR but get top position for certain keywords and get good listing but are shy because of low PR ;)
     
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  6. InnovationZen

    InnovationZen Well-Known Member

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    PR also helps on link exchanges
     
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  7. Bondat

    Bondat Peon

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    True, PR is for trust rank. So webmaster are looking for sites with higher PR if they will link exchange with someone.
     
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  8. john2006

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    Nonsense. The majority of the people that I know and who don't run any site have no clue what I'm talking about when I mention Google Page Rank. These same people value a site by content only and that's the way it should be.
    The only people who drool by it are those like you who don't understand how PR really works.
     
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  9. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    Yes it does help in link exchange. But my friend the concet of link exchange has changed a lot. It is advisable not do exchange links :)

    More particularly you should not exchange links with link pages.

    Yes natural link or those done artificially and appearing natural are worthy and PR does help a lot build that

    Cheers
    MI
     
    mirainfo, Oct 3, 2006 IP
  10. saadahmed007

    saadahmed007 Admínistratör

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    Actually People donot like link exchange these days they purchase links more instead the higher PR your site have the more $$$ you will get from link sales :)
    Saad
     
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  11. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    Relax my friend. Please use well behaved language and dont point finger to a person individually. This is unethical and also this reduces your own image, not the image of the person you point finger at.

    Well coming to the topic you are free to share your view. Indedd you should share your view because that is going to help all of us. main use of forum is this. We share our experience and gain maas knowledge.

    Well like ou you said your friends dont even know what is a PR. May be true and may be it is true that maximum percentage of WWW users do not have any idea about what is a PR. But I think you should be aware that almost all regular users of google SE and surely 100% of SEO prfessionals and webasters understand the value of PR.

    And it is obvious that everyone understad that more the PR better it is.
     
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  12. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    YES YES YES AND A BIG YES :D.

    Here my friend explains the real truth of PR concept :D

    Higher PR means you can sell links and hence more $$$ to your pocket ;)
     
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  13. junjun

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    #13
    Couldn't agree more..
     
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  14. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    Just a small question for you buddy ;)

    Would you love a site with low PR as compared to high PR, content type and theme and looks and everything else remaining the same for both ;)
     
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  15. junjun

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    #15
    Uhm.. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Read my post one more time.
    How does this relate to regular visitors using Pagerank as a direct quality measurement of websites they're visiting? If you think regular users of the internet use the Google PR to determine the quality of the website they're on, I think you're.. ok, I know you're sensitive to pointing fingers so I'll leave it there.

    Why are people still so hung up in PR?
     
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  16. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    Well in that case you are right. No normal visitor would ever bother to check the PR of an website. He would not even use google toolbar.

    And lol if he reached the site through referal, add or MSN/YAHOO search then he is not going bother about it at all.

    But yes if he got to the site with google SERP and still the PR is low, then no issues becase google would track the popularity of the site with click to that site through SERP result page and would increase the PR to that site on next update.

    No dobt PR is a concept by google only and not by global community. This is a personal rating done by google based on its own evaluation. Google does not have access to the popularity of any site. But it can make an asumption based on the popularity of that site through google.

    Please dont consider me too sensitive to raised fingers. Well teh truth would be yes but my friend we are here to discuss our ideas and experience which will help all of us learn from each other. Therefore I would encourage you to share your idea so that I learn with your experience. I know I reacted hard to a comment of one friend, but that was because of too hard language used by him. No personal feeling :)

    Cheers
    MI
     
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  17. junjun

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    #17
    ok, there's a possible language barrier here, I'll admit that.
    I'll have to disagree. PR is a vital component og Googles search technology, and it's not measured by by 'humans', if that is what you mean by 'personal'.
    Going back to the principles of the Google PR, this is exactly what they're trying to do, to measure the popularity/quality of a site.
     
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  18. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    Hii friend :), thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. Actually by personal I dont mean by an individual. By personal I meant google unit. If you set up a system and run a program do do certain thing then it is not a global system but a personal system.

    It is obvious that PR rating is done by google based on its own evaluation and this is not a global community or evaluation system.

    Google does not have direct access toy uor weblog and makes asumptions of total visit based on the hits your site receive through google's site. They also consider the linkbacks to your site from those of google indexed pages.

    Ofcourse all these are done by a system runing through may be thousands of servers. No single man can nadle it manually ;)

    But again google is the giant SE system and is most reliable to most of the visitors which makes PR a strong concept :)

    And my friend PR does help us earn more $$$ if we are looking for some revenue by selling links.

    Will look forward for your views :)

    Thank you once again
     
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  19. mirainfo

    mirainfo Active Member

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    Another major factor to fetch PR is to get links from a high PR site ;)
     
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    Does anyone know how Google PR or algorithm works? :confused: I have done some research work and found some sites have a better SERP (#2 or 3), though it has low PR, few external links (related), poor title and poor content. The only thing good about this site is, it has the entire keyword in the domain name.

    97 million competes for this keyword. :rolleyes:
     
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