Al-Quran | An intersting Fact :)

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  1. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #21
    My suspicions are getting more and more stronger..
     
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  2. wptheme

    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    #22
    What suspicions? :)
     
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    #23
    yeah Wptheme at least you can think about it.
    Your belief / no belief is very strong right, so no need to feel afraid and listed to the verses being read.


    oh nice, I read some of them in Islamic history books either. then can call Al-Qaida misslead Moslems?
     
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  4. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #24
    WpTheme, it seems you don't care at all that the site you are promoting is contributes to a blasphemer, a hypocrite, a liar, and someone who hates Muslims. If you like the info and facts so much, why don't you mirror the site? By promoting that particular link you are promoting anti-Muslim sentiment. You would have the readers of Digital Point believe that Muslims are hypocrites with your own example. It will be hard to take any of your posts seriously so long as you continue to carry that avatar.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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  6. luke12

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    #26
    I appreciate you trying but my point of the question is how can you believe it when it is not scientifically possible. If someone questions your belif that Ants can talk and communicate with human beings, then there is no doubt he/she would question your whole religion is based on stories similar to these.

    Some of the previous members here couldn't answer some of my questions properly so they also replied to me with some videos of Sheikh Yusuf.
    I came to the conclusion that this so called Sheikh yusuf is just deceiving to you guys because he takes information out of context and sprinkle it with a touch of humour. Unfortunately for him, I can spot his mistakes easily because I studied these texts that I am talking about.
    So, my point is please do not refer to one of his videos for sources of information
     
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  7. wptheme

    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    @Dear Will - You haven't answered my previous statement. You know very well that those who claim to be a Prophet is a lie. And your quoting from Wikipedia. Lol.. Why should I believe a human edited directory compared to the Quran'

    And please don't post links and then claiming you know much more about Muhammad. Please tell me you have read in the Quran about him, his Sunnah, his books. You are just reading quoted events that people want you to read :) And to condemn people to go to rot in hell fire when you don't even believe in the here after. Don't make me laugh.

    Here in the Quran, Surah al-Ahzab
    http://quran.com/33

    Verse 40
    http://quran.com/33/40
    Sahih International
    Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.

    And what I see from what people is doing they are trying to deviate from the main content of this thread. Very poor tactic I must say. If you want to speak about others then why don't you try and open your own thread ok. I can continuously answer and answer but whats the point when your heart is as close and hard like a stone.

    Just answer one thing, try explaining the verse in the first few posts about the Ants. You can't even answer that you know.
    All the best is you would say Muhammad is a wizard, a sorcerer and anything you want to call him.

    Surah as-Saf
    http://quran.com/61

    Verse 5
    Sahih International
    And [mention, O Muhammad], when Moses said to his people, "O my people, why do you harm me while you certainly know that I am the messenger of Allah to you?" And when they deviated, Allah caused their hearts to deviate. And Allah does not guide the defiantly disobedient people.

    Verse 6
    Sahih International
    And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."

    I implore to those that can still see with their heart how Islam is the Religion of truth. To Atheists, I just hope one thing, for you to go on a nice clear day maybe at the beach, clear your mind for a moment. Maybe relax for some time and take a deep breath. See the heavens and the earth, see how beautiful is the world, how balance it is.

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    How can this be a coincidence? How the earth is correctly placed and spinning, moving in its own path around the Sun. To close it will bake, too far the earth will freeze. Do you still think thats a coincidence?
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    When your at your death bed, won't it be too late for you to see and find the true religion. Trust me when you feel that death is so near then you will start to panic because deep in your heart you actually believe there is a life hereafter. DONT WAIT UNTIL ITS TOO LATE!!

    To those who believe Christian, Please.. Please.. go back to oyur home, have a nice dinner and site down for a moment,just think about the concept of trinity, how many versions of the Bible. Why is there too many versions? Ask your priest next Sunday. Ask him how to explain the concept of trinity. Trust me he himself can't think of a absolute answer.

    Please,, please.. view this video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Unyg83194&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNHVzeoKmVM&feature=related

    You have nothing to loose. If you don't believe it and still want to stay firm then I have tried. Don't be influenced by those saying things about islam when you haven't even tried to hear it from the person who really knows. Go and visit face to face at a Imam at a Masjid near to you now.
    Believe me they won't start shooting you enter it and ask to meet the Imam :)

    From Him we came, and to Him we shall return.
    Allahukbar!
     
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  8. ibanezgrx1

    ibanezgrx1 Well-Known Member

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    #28
    This is a useless thread. Why don't each of us stay good with our own religion? I don't think any religion told us to attack or abuse people who don't believe in that religion. So everyone's faith is with him. From the beginning of this earth, it has been led to destruction with this religious madness.
    @WPTHEME: You can not prove anything with youtube videos. Anyone can make them. And make them in a way that guys like you losses their nerve and create a mess with religious stuff.
    @ Everyone: Like youtube videos you can not prove anything with what is written on a webpage. Anyone can write that, alter the facts to create a mess.
    Just stick to what you believe. You have a common sense to guide you and that is it. Do what it tells you. Just be true to yourself.

    P.S :I'm sorry if I've hearted anyone's feelings. I just expressed how I feel and I hope that all of you are open to it(anyone expressing their feelings) :)
     
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  9. alexispetrov

    alexispetrov Peon

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    #29
    You're clearly a sweet person - so please don't think I'm trying to be rude; but some religions DO tell people to kill/enslave/harm non believers or "infidels".

    That's why a lot of hate religion.
     
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    Rolfacopter What's so hard to understand ?

    I hope you realize that this sounds like a pathetic attempt to convert people to your religion .

    I find it pitiful that instead of respecting each others beliefs some of us focus on "showing others the truth" . Instead of dealing whit the wave of nutcases that flooded the Internet elite - ya , not a lot of good webmasters floating around - stands here and bashes each others heads . I wonder how a UN closed door meeting looks like :p .
     
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  11. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #31
    WPTheme, I noticed your response did not address your avatar. Do you really want to promote the idea you are a hypocrite?
     
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  12. wptheme

    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    #32
    @ibanezgrx1 - thanks but clearly you haven't seen the videos. Please view it FULLY and then come back and comment. :)
    @Obamanation - what are you talking about :), read again my posts again ok.

    I would love for you all to take a few minutes of your time and view this video if you can.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkJSRJ9xfw

    [video=youtube;USkJSRJ9xfw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkJSRJ9xfw[/video]
     
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  13. Alevoor

    Alevoor Active Member

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    #33
    Quran is a human written directory of lies, code book of lies and hatred (killers flaunt them in defense) and god knows who wrote this. At least, the wikipedia is edited by so many people who can be expected to be largely just, level headed (at least) and knowledgeable.

    Why should anyone watch videos quoted by you? Because it's made by Quran?


    Here is the truth.
    You have only one god. Okay, so. I had my god before alla came into being. So, there are actually two of them. But there are people who believe they have their own gods. So, quran is a bag of lies. Right?

    If Quran is true as you say, then it says to treat your women as your fields whom you can enter as you wish at any time of the day. So, quran is worse than a Satan's manual.
     
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  14. ibanezgrx1

    ibanezgrx1 Well-Known Member

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    #34
    Actually man, I'm not gonna watch any youtube videos. Cause, you know what? I have seen a lot of videos like that and don't want to waste my time watching some more. I would request you to read my first post in this thread and stop this nonsense.

    I don't see anyone in this thread who first stared trying to prove anything. If you hurt other peoples feelings, people are bound to shout back( Things will not get complicated, if they don't though :) )

    You believe your religion is best, fine. Be happy with it. There is no need to do what you are doing in this thread.
     
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  15. Obamanation

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    #35
    Not only did I read your post, I quoted the relevant part. Let me quote it again for good measure:

    What your response basically says is: "I don't care if the person who runs the site behind my avatar is a known pornographer, something despised by Islam. I like what the site says, so I will help promote it.". That kind of hypocrisy goes hand in hand with the mentality of it's promoter, Menj, who was more than happy to create post after post disparaging anyone on the planet for perceived offenses to Muslims, while completely ignoring the thousands of Muslims being slaughtered and tortured by supposed Muslim groups like Hamas.

    While I appreciate the many informative posts you post with information on Islam, your avatar basically screams out to the people you are trying to inform. It says loudly, "I am a hypocrite". It is in no small part responsible for the anti-Muslim mentality that is spreading world wide, and as a Muslim, I must speak out against it.
     
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    alexispetrov Peon

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    #36
    So this means one of two things;

    1) You are fine with pornography

    OR

    2) If you like a site you will promote it regardless of the integrity or character of it's owner, ergo, even if someone raped kids you'd still promote their site if you liked it.

    Which is it? I thought you seemed not so bad until this :S
     
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  17. wptheme

    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Lol.. So its like that. Get them into a group and they will do anything to discredit you :)
    And those not in the group had a past in this forum. Like I said mumble all you want.
    I don't really care about you few people. I am targetting people that have a open heart.

    You can't even explain one thing about the truth of the Quran I have displayed.
    Why? Why? Please others that see and read this thread. I have never and never will want to show how good I am or whatever and there will always be those that mumble things trying to take away from the main topic :)

    I will continue to bring you the truth.
    The children of Israel know this truth, the Atheist know it in their heart, and the Christians some ignorant and some concealing will continue to fight just to say their right and right. People this is not about if you win or nor but its about the truth.

    See with your own eyes, this group will try to discredit people trying to say the truth but what do I care? They will try to deviate and trash the thread but what do I care?
    They will just say its a code of lies? Lol... they can't even explain how its false and untrue.

    I know you want a change in your life, to firm your belief now do what I implore you as the posts above.
    Don't care about those trying to mislead you from the true path.

    Allahuakbar!!


    And I won't stop my preaching eventhough the unbelievers do anything or whatever to the best off their abilities. Remember my words, Find the true Religion, you have no one to blame except yourself in front of your Only God in the Akhirah as I have already repeatedly repeat it until someone sees the truth. Anyway whats Da'wah without some challenges eh.. heheh.. thanks to those beloved people that tries their best to make it look normal but seriously anyone can see how Unique is the Quran!

    Hidayah is not from me, its from Allah. I will continue to do my best!

    Share this thread and see with your own eyes how true is the Quran.
    My purpose of this thread is only for people to see the truth of the Quran. Read all the replies here and no one can gave a good answer to the science of the Quran.

    Auzubillahi min asyaitani rajim

    Rabbana Atina fidunia hasanah wa fil akhirati hasanah wi qina azabannar
     
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  18. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #38
    I'm not sure what the group I promote has to do with anything, but I can see you do not care the slightest about the fact you are indirectly helping to promote pornography. Most people distance themselves from such undesirables, but not you. If that taints the message you are putting out, how can you possibly blame anyone but yourself? I'm not sure where you are from, but in many parts of the world(including the place your pornographer friend is from), people are put in prison for such blasphemy.
     
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  19. luke12

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    #39
    Well, thank you for the nice dinner compliment. I am craving a turkey, join me?

    Now, Why is the concept of trinity bothering you so much? I can explain it in a very simple manner because we Christians understand it and if you wish to know, just send me a PM. We don't even need a priest to gain knowledge because the holy spirit acts as a guidance for us.
    Whatever version of the bible you're looking at, they all have the same meaning.

    What else is troubling you about the Christian faith?
     
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  20. Alevoor

    Alevoor Active Member

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    #40
    Alla hu akbar means that god is great, not a word more and not less. God never discriminates between religions. I am the last person to believe that god said only islamic god is great.

    We have no time to stop you from crying your lungs out, we are busy with saving muslims from in fighting, bombing themselves and floods. However, looking at muslims' abilities to survive calamities, meseries, stoning, beheading and rapes, I wish alla could do more to help you out if at all he were a god of some substance.

    Please gimme a few more of those funny quranic verses, school children enjoy them here.
     
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