Militarizing India Priority #1

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Brahmana, Sep 11, 2010.

  1. miscsoft

    miscsoft Peon

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    #81
    Hinduism is perhaps the only religion (for the lack of better word), which acknowledges and accepts atheism too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism_in_Hinduism

    behind every mythology (fairy tales) lies a philosophy.
     
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  2. Brahmana

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    #82
    Militarizing India is a must: Judicary Incapable of providing Judgment.

    Some wouldn't like India to be Militarized. That is their problem. In order for Republic of India to exist as Republic of India in the future, it must Militarize.

    I write for the Republic, how the Republic ought to chart its course in the future. Some wouldn't like India to be Militarized. It maybe China, Muslims, EU or US. That is their problem. For India to take care itself in the future, India need to be militarized. To keep order inside the Indian Federation and to extend its influence outside of its border. So called friends of India are temporary. Only thing that is constant for India is its future interests. This is the basic for all states. Militarization is a must. Period.
     
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  3. Alevoor

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    #83
    Brahmana
    You are a nut. Talking too much without telling why you think so will show you in a bad light
     
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    Alevoor Active Member

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    #84

    I'll let this open to all to see what Helvetti stands for
     
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    #85
    LOL, I think everyone (that is everyone with IQ above 80) acknowledges that from a legal standpoint this judgement is an absolute joke and the judges are proven idiots.

    Summary of verdict:

    1) God exists
    2) God was born here
    3) There was an ancient Hindu temple there which was not in a good state.

    Therefore divide it in 3 parts, LOL.

    I don't understand how the court can say that god was born here so the land belong to hindus and then divide it in 3 parts, this is beyond me, don't even know what to say LMAO. Silly little religious people wasting there time demonstrating their stupidity.
     
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    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #86
    brahmana u need medical treatment immediately, probably need to contact admin for ur ip, track ur phone number and inform ur parents of u r health state - may be they can help u in admitting into any asylum :p

    helvetti, its called "faith". Court doesn't say god was born there but the judges say it. They are humans and living in Indian society, let it be any religion in India, we respect Hinduism similar to other religions and we respect the mythologies and its stories too.

    God was born there is a myth and its a faith carried out by millions, there is no harm in some one believing anything as long they don't make a fuss out of it.

    I am ok with the judgment, though I would loved to see the hindu fanatic parties been slammed by the court for their mosque destruction, may be they should have been forced to give away their land in other part to WAQF r ask these fanatics to bare the costs of the new mosque - how much ever it may cost.. it would have been pretty much more decent judgment
     
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  7. Alevoor

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    #87
    It doesn't even take an IQ of 80 to tell these points are not written in the judgment.
    Now I know whether it is the judges or if calling judges is idiotic
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

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    #88
    India is not facing a significant credible foreign threat. China is not interested in a conflict with India and Pakistan is too incompetent to be seen as a significant threat.

    India's largest military threat is from the Naxalites. However, I doubt that this will be solved with a larger Indian army -- though a more professional one might be useful.

    The first does not imply militarization as a solution; the second is not a goal of most Indians.

    I agree with you on this point. India has very few real friends in the world, and the U.S. cannot be trusted to support India against any sort of Islamist threat.

    Few Indians here appear to agree with you concerning what those future interests are.

    You have yet to prove that point. On the other hand, the cost of militarization is inarguable.

    But let's drill down. Please define exactly what you mean by "militarization."
     
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    #89

    Judges were very smart. Who cares about the truth when the lives of thousands of innocent people hangs in the balance. There were no violent incidents after the verdict. I am delighted...
     
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    #90
    That bothers me.
     
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    #91
    It's India , what did you expect ?
     
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    #92
    India is an enormous nation with an almost unimaginable variety of cultures and values. It is almost impossible to make a sensible generalization regarding expectations in India.
     
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  13. Alevoor

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    #93
    Oh, come on, Apocalypse...
     
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    #94
    Just messing whit you :p .

    But you do have a lot idiots that roam the Internet posting bull . Guess the price India has to pay for digitalization is being made a fool of by waves of scammers & other half brained creatures .
     
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    #95
    Haha. Just reveal what country you're from. I think you're hiding it coz people here will take the mickey out of you. Anyways, Will said it right. You should have seen the Commonwealth Games opening ceremony to get an idea ;)
     
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    I saw the opening ceremony . But the damage has already been done :p . India didn't had much of a reputation before and now it tarnished even more . I do hope that you guys manage to get your problems fixed .
     
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    #97
    the main probs we do face are the corruption and greedy politicians its not going to vanish in a week or 2,
    agreed the reputation is been tarnished, but a few successful events can always bring good fame around, also agreed bad gets out faster than the good, the world media showed the bad on India in Delhi - y didn't they focus on some infrastructure in and around the city, like the world's largest bus terminus and so on.. I am not going to defend the ill-management but a country can't be rated just on a single event

    btw! how did u enjoy opening ceremony :p some politicians and celebrities down here called it a miracle, as it went well than expected :p
     
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    It was what I expected from such an event . A decent display , pretty much as good as India can make it .

    Not by far a miracle thou :p . But hey the politicians couldn't bad mouth it's not in their nature to say what they think off lol .
     
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    Masterrio and Apocalypse
    You both seem to have missed the point Will is making. Have you not heard our Senior most minister say that no country on this earth is experienced enough to run/bind a 1.3 billion population in a democracy, so is India. We have more languages, ethnicities, cultures, climatic zones and time zones than the entire Europe has, let alone the most recent EU which is still a union.

    In addition, there is something called as psuedo-secularism which at best goes as far as just making a tame appeal in cases of crises. India doesn't want to claim back the occupied Kashmir because some of us don't like muslims hurt. We can't take the rocket to speed up development because we are waiting for some of our population to catch up. We have no boundaries in between states/provinces but we have put in place all that shouldn't transpire between them.

    At the least, there are two Indias (wtf?). True. One, doesn't want to prosper. The bureaucrats, politicians, rustic traders, touts, dalits, and muslims- all such men and women fear they will be out of job. For a minute, they are right. They are feeding on government grants, fictitious projects, they can scam and get away, so they hate progress.

    You can't wish them away, you can't cancel their membership (Probably EU do so).

    We have a Pakistan to deal with. Neither America nor the EU can boast of this luxury. Yes, US and EU have some of them on their door steps but that's all. We have them in every nook and corner, in banks, key government positions, inside mosques (making bombs perhaps). They are almost in our homes.

    USSR tried somewhat similar to this with Glasnost and Perestroika but the experiment lasted less than half a decade, that is- despite it being light years ahead of India's condition at that time. Yes, there is no direct comparison, but that's the closest that can be quoted.

    Reputation? Thanks for reminding but we don't want others to preach us. Ours is the oldest civilization. We've survived for millenniums in spite of so many invasions, do you know that we have accepted the invaders as one amongst us too? So what reputation are you talking about?

    Corruption? Heh, Chalta hei, yar. Koun zyada kamana nahin chahta? (It's okay, friend. Who doesn't like to earn more?). Just learn some english, you are assured of a US job that lets you stay back in India (at least till now) and still buy a home in five years. So who cares what's it like just outside my door...

    So, you can't probably find an attitude as dirty and disgusting as this in West nor in Africa, but that's okay. This is beyond comparison; basically because you don't have another subcontinent on this earth to draw from their experience. And unfortunately, we are condemned to not elect good parliamentarians. So, it's not easy you know? Show me one place which is better managed and better run? Show me one nation with 1.3 bn people and growing at 8% year on year? We could do better, but this is the best the world has seen.
     
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    #100
    Since P&R has a hate free day here's my opinion on India .

    India has the potential of being a great place to live . It once was the "crown jewel" and it certainly has the potential to be one of the top 5 nations in Asia (Russia is not included) . Fro my point of view India suffer from a mix of incapable politicians and social problems . If you couple that whit high expectations and a poorly developed country you have a recipe for disaster .

    From what I know India's number one problem is the staggering population amount (BTW you guys got 1,166,079,217 people and a growth rate of 1.54 let's not exaggerate ) and the fact that that population growth rate is accelerating . China was forced to stop its insane growth simply because they've realized they will have huge problem when it comes to supplying it's population .

    India can't do the same . India's politicians are some of the most cretinous creatures I've ever heard of . So instead of passing strict laws that could stabilize the population growth they prefer to pat each others back and fill their pockets . From the limited knowledge I have on the matter they propose and waste money on all kind wild goose projects , proclaim that India is the best nation on Earth and say that India is surrounded by savage enemies .

    You mentioned Pakistan . Well after Iran and the dieing North Korea Pakistan is one sick puppy . When I tried to learn about Pakistan's great leaders Google returned :Your Search did not match any documents: . As you can see more and more crosshairs will look in the near future at Pakistan . The best thing would be if we can get them to renounce their nuclear arsenal . Of course India will have to drop it's nukes as well . Pakistan doesn't have the economic power to wage war . Unfortunately there are nutcases that would drive whit a nuke in the trunk and blow them self whit it . And besides the quality of their military forces is terrible .

    India is now enjoying unprecedented growth . I call it unstable grow but nevertheless it's a lot of money that's coming into the country . But what will India do in the long term . By 2020-2025 it will be at a standstill simply because the price of oil will be to high to allow further economic growth . If we add 300 more millions mouths to feed you guys will be in deep shit . The poor will be poorer and the rich will be even more obscenely rich .

    In my opinion India needs to develop it's basic infrastructure and develop long term growth strategy . By 2015 India will need to start taking immediate action to stop the global warming how will it do that if it's economy is a total chaos . I've never bother checking the numbers but 200 or 600 million people that don't even have a toilet that's something beyond appalling , it's not as bad as terrorism but it's definitely up there .

    My opinion is that if there was a time for a social change now is it the economy is flying (not something impressive considering the previous economic state but it's still great) . NATO forces are in the area in case Pakistan goes nutty bananas and there is the technology to create a prosperous nation . I wish I could help you but besides frying a few military or political servers my powers are limited .

    Since you're probably India's best I have some questions . Do you guys think that this population huge growth should be stabilized ?
    What actions should the government take ?
     
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