Pakistan Foreign Minister - Brain Injury

Over the last few days I find myself not trusting my eyes and ears .

This is the news in cause :
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...V1Jc01nRT6tr6YrojJFgD9IIJCR80?docId=D9IIJCR80

Pakistan that recently got a trainload of cash to rebuild itself after the floods .
Pakistan that has received military equipment from the US .
Pakistan that receives a shitload of money from the US .

Pakistan's Shah Mehmood Qureshi has decided to cut off NATO's mail supply line to the forces in Afghanistan . At the moment the problem is being treated as a Pakistani internal problem but man they sure have some idiots in the Pakistan's Federal Government .

 

or it is the other way round.

 

Either you're implying that NATO should have never crushed Al Queda or you're saying that I'm an idiot . In either case you're post doesn't have the slightest amount of back-up .

 

all i am saying its not the pakistani but the US who are acting idiots. US is giving billions (in arms and money) to pakistan, who in return is exporting terror to US and the rest of the world.

 

Well when you got a country that's sending nutjobs in your way you contact them . Give them some funds for a better police and some education .

I hope that the Pakis get that guy down from there . This situation can have 3 outcomes : Pakis let supply lines run again and everyone is happy .

We rape Pakistan for being nutjobs . (India will applaud on this one)

We dine at Tehran and a get a new supply line through there. (Pakis will lose all the delicious cash)

We pack-up the troops plow back to the transport ships (some paki rape included) and go home and let the region become a nuclear terrorist boil .

 

better police like doling out some F16s. comeon pal you dont require those beast to fight terrorism. they are to be used against, you know whom. but if you ask me those F16s are to be used againts the US itself (when the idiots in US finally realizes the ground realities and takes necessary steps). hope uncle sam has made proper due digilence while delivering the Fs.

 

I think the f-16 where some kind of paving the way deal . Anyway the Paki pilots where horrible . I remember one incident when f-16s got bombed literally by soviet pilots whit mig-23 bombers that they where suppose to intercept .

 

Well, Apocalypse...

I appreciate it, that US has a task on hand in deed. That it wants the Middle east and Af-Pak crises solved. So how does it go about?

Arm both the sides to the brim and have one of them turn the guns back at US
or

Arm one of them and take on the other side on your own but still get f^cked up by both as a result of footing the war bill of both the sides
or

Arm both the sides, shut your eyes and pretend that they will finish off each other till the trouble comes banging your door
or

Arm both the sides and pretend that neither will divert the arms to Taliban / Al Qaeda.

Good intentions, good investment of several lives and time but to no avail. US still returns bruised from Middle East.

 

It far far more complicated . The process will be long and tedious . But building a solid base of freedom is the prime directive . If human rights will be respected in Afghanistan and Pakistan no terrorist organization can grow roots in there .

The wheel is turning . Let us hope it will be in the benefit of all of us .

 

This is exactly where you and I (India and west) fundamentally differ. Like I told in another post, this would only work in an Utopian state or somewhere where sharia isn't the law or where islam isn't the religion. Terrorist organizations thrive faster with every aid package sent by you, it waters, feeds terrorists more than when no aid is sent.

As I understand there are two paradigm differences between humanity and Islam. While you want to see the world from a humanitarian lens, for love and passion, islam teaches, compels its followers to kill humanitarians, the non believers to establish a muslim world. The fact is, they make fun of you sarcastically each time you send a relief or aid package. Second, the only purpose of a muslim is to spread islam even if it means they sacrifice their own people for the cause. So what do you think, they befriend you for all that you did to them?

 

Maybe maybe not . If you look at Africa is slowly becoming a somewhat livable plate . It will take them another 50 year to reach our level of development but it will happen . The only doomed regions in Africa are Nigeria and the Magreb .

May that will happen in the Middle East to . In 10 years Iraq might flower into a center of freedom . That alone would be a massive achievement .

 

Maybe maybe not

Africa is not fanatical in religious matters. And much of it is completely democratic in every respect. The only question with regard to religion I encountered in Africa was why is Hinduism a small religion despite being the oldest.

Unfortunately, Iraq falls within the volcanic hot islamic bed of terrorism. It is surrounded, supported and prodded by cataclysmic mullas, ISI & Paki government, and terrorists as dangerous as Al Qaeda. It would take, in all probability, 10 times more the effort to make it turn away from fundamentalism. And, all the while, don't expect their cronies to stay silent spectators when you liberate Iraqis one by one. Have you forgotten the millions of copies of quran distributed free of cost to splinter USSR countries by Pakistan as a symbolic gesture of so called brotherhood? These are fanatical religious maniacs that take birth only to go to any extent. Mass murdering comes to them as easily as playing soccer with left hand alone. (if I may say so)

I don't think there is any ambiguity about this. So it's yes, not Maybe maybe not

 

Didn't he mentioned any reason for doing that? Oh wait he did mentioned that. Three Pakistani soldiers got killed by NATO helicopters.

Don't give an excuse that they fired first. NATO helicopters crossed the International border. FM would have been an idiot if he hadn't taken any action.

 

The matter should have been taken to the UN or talked over if and I say I that was true. Cutting off supply to a force that combats terrorism is a overreaction .

Maybe we should cut the economic support to Pakistan right ? After all who needs money . Or perhaps we should overreact to and declare Pakistan hostile . Wont that be beautiful ?

 

And wait for 50yrs or so to get the matter resolved in UN. Supply line was blocked after two prior similar incidents and warnings within a week.

Everyone plays with the leverage they have. If you think Collation forces have that leverage over Pakistan, they should go a head and do that. It will cost more than what they give to Pakistan if they use alternate routes for supply.


Are you under the impression that this war will stay out of Pakistan? I'm not talking about the tribal areas.

 

Don't you want the war to stay out of Pakistan ?

 

Joke: This is a clear cut case of media deception. Why would he need brain surgery? Most Pakistanis don't have brain!

 

I agree if you referred to US or NATO farces as combating terrorism. But not if you referred to Pakistan or Afghanistan forces purely because you are fooled and taken for a ride by Paki claims to only entice US for more grants and military aid. I am sorry but this is the truth.

I will let you read these to know why an entire nation is unworthy of trust

The following links only reinforce my arguments

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/natos-combat-material-sold-to-pak-militants/132240-2.html?from=trending
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/nato_tankers_torched_at_pakistan_dWwaGt019sBYDYCHKWhKuK
http://www.eurasiareview.com/201010...torched-in-pakistan-3-killed-10-arrested.html

I disagree that protesting international help to Af-Pak will mean over reaction. Millions have died in India for reasons PURELY ATTRIBUTABLE to Pakistan and a few more thousands to Islamist terrorism (the number probably equals your country's population) and more often than not, the deceased persons belonged to our own families. I am not overreacting but trying to make my case against aiding muslims/Pakistan

A correction to your response:
Perhaps we should aptly react and declare Pakistan hostile. That would be prudent and paving the way for a most durable peace.

 

At this point, that would be pretty much like declaring the night dark.

 

Pakistan is your Father!