Verdict "Ram Janmabhumi(Birth place of lord Ram) and Babri Masjid" open can of worms

It has been unanimously proved in court of law that babar had indeed demolished a Hindu temple and constructed a mosque against the tenets of Islam and hence the land did not belong to him.
Lawyers of peaceful religion are arguing that since there is no scientific proof of existence of Ram , the whole area should be handed over to them - as if there is some scientific proof of existence of Allah that he ordered babar to demolish hindu temple and ordered to construct a mosque !!

As if I believe in Ram - peaceful religion people / communist can break into my house and occupy and claim that it belongs to them. But communist can believe some crazy guy Lenin ,etc and think they are great people.

But there are thousands of mosques in the world built on top of other religious structures , now in all non muslim countries , people may start reclaiming what their forefathers have lost to barbaric aggressors , who had no respect for other religion or life .

 

lets not assume what micky mouse would think, rather stick to the judgement and let us analyse the same.

say i occupy your house. as a law binding citizen you go to the judiciary. now after 60 years (i hope you remain alive till then) the court passes a judgement that you are the rightful owner of the house but hey wait, i (the occupier) still retian 1/3 of the property. sounds great to me (as a occupier). what do you say??

long live the indian judiciary.

 

It's a pretty sensible judgment. Although the Muslim litigants had no locus standee after their claim was dismissed, they were still awarded an equal portion of the land which the Hindus would get. I can't imagine a losing side getting a fair share of disputed property anywhere else than India. So, hats off to Indian ethos.

 

In the mean time the rest of the world is laughing their ass of looking at this . Can't India just declare the place a historical site and leave it to rot ?

 

And leave the entire country to muslims a few years later, in steps?
btw, the same rest of the world will see why it shouldn't have laughed its ass off much later when they are targeted as seriously as India is today.

 

I didn't know that EU governments can intervene in court cases and pass unilateral judgements, this is news to me

 

A suggestion Apocalypse, are you sure the rest of the world, as you think, has enough time to laugh it's ass off? Then it should in deed stop it and join India in fighting Islamic terrorism the real way.

 

From my point of view we're doing quite a lot when it comes to terrorism . But the problem is far bigger . We would like to silence the extremists but if we intervene in any way we're gonna violate our own principles of religious freedom . The military & economic support we're giving to Afghanistan is gonna be the tip of the spear for the next few years .

ATM Europe is refining it's social views on immigration and social guidelines . We have such a long tradition of welcoming other whit open arms that it's very very hard to say no to people coming and asking for help . We have so many deadlines to meet it's kind of terrifying (economy & the environment are on top of the list). Our number one priority is to complete the advancement into the digital age since our society assimilates technology really well and we'll benefit greatly from that . In the next few years the implementation of 4g technology should be complete and from there we shell see . We'll probably focus even more on developing fusion technology and implementing genetics & nanotechnology .

@Helvetii : It was merely a suggestion . You guys are free to do whatever you want . I'm just a voice , a unus multi . India has some tough times ahead . I hope that you guys will manage to see your problems and solve them accordingly .

 

I think the only reason the government divided it in three parts is to prevent the riots that would definitely take place. the court isn't supposed to let that affect it's judgement, but it doesn't change the fact that the judges are senseible humans too and would rather prevent a riot than become the cause of one.

 

Funny thing, verdict should be based on facts represented to the judges. If riots be the consequence of the verdict so be it. Let India burn. Riots can be handled appropriately. This is why India need to be militarized. Militarizing India Priority #1.

Each state should have at least 1 million Indian Army soldiers at any one time to put out these stu**d people rioting. At least India Needs 50 Million armed men in the army. 25 Million (1 million on each state) just to keep the Indian Federation from Internal problems and another 25 million for external threats, just for pure offense. I will elaborate on when I have time.

 

That's fine. But the military & economic support you're giving to Afghanistan and Pakistan is being misused against you and India. This (upliftment, education and progress theory) would work in a just and sensible society but here we have a situation where the beneficiaries either have a track record of either diverting the aid to terrorists or using it against you directly.

On your second point, I would have nothing to say as it's the thing everyone should be focusing on doing.

Government has no say in this and can't rule the division. Judiciary is independent of executive and they both are on par, meaning that governments here can't override ruling by judiciary but can only seek a review. This time over, to show you how the executive respects the judiciary, the Indian government has announced its intention not to appeal to the supreme court against the High court ruling.

If you have concrete evidence of conspiracy for a definite riot, why don't you share it with the agencies here?

 

Please don't, you are only embarrassing yourself.

You misunderstood me, you asked why the government doesn't declare it a historical place and with my next comment:

I meant to imply that it is not possible for the government to intervene in a case pending in court and take a decision on a sub-judicious matter in India (maybe in EU), it can be done but it would be unconstitutional and people would have full right to revolt.

 

I forgot about that stuff lol . But i know they have powers that can overwrite any decision at least our do . When something is considered of strategical importance they have more powers then I can count .

 

That's what I meant, the Allahabad high court, not the government. No more replying to posts while watching Friends.
As for "conspiracies for a definite riot", India was closed for a day, and there were plans on closing down networks in cities such as Bangalore. Everyone predicted that there'll be riots. Religion, afterall, is a touchy subject with a lot of people.

 

India was not shut off neither any network was down as you sound to imply. The provincial administrations were making independent precautionary arrangements based on their assessment for preparedness. While preparedness essentially helps you effectively combat riots, it per se doesn't mean that the riots were imminent. You seem to be a bit carried away by the run of events but no one I spoke to on long distance calls or face-face thought expected a riot.

 

There would have been a riot had there been a real verdict rather than some silly "compromise".

 

Compromise? May I please know who you might be, Sire?

At least for now, you accept that Hindus have not rioted as you posted somewhere that they WILL. These are matters of law and judiciary. Although I am not expecting everyone to know its intricacies, you can somehow know the spirit of this judgment and what is flowing underneath if you make a little effort.

By the way, a small correction that might help

it is Sub judice (under the consideration of courts/judges) not sub-judicious which might loosely mean substandard wisdom, that is, if that can

 

The spirit of a court judgement should be to deliver justice to the aggrieved party- dividing property between 3 parties is hardly justice.

 

It seems more like outside the court settlement but done by the Judges.

 

if there is a peaceful settlement every one should be happy about rather than crying about past too much, there were lots of temples and mosques destructed through out the ages,

look at the bright side such as in Bihar, where Muslims are building a temple for Lord Shiva on an muslim donated land, as an Hindu built a worship place for them, all this happening in a small village - why can't we act matured like them.