American Muslims react to Pope's comments

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ibn Juferi, Sep 30, 2006.

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  1. Grafstein

    Grafstein Peon

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    #41
    Are you a jew?
     
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    #42
    Am actually a Kiwi, ie from NZ.
     
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    #43
    Well, my opinion on islam is that its a religion of death, and destruction.
    What makes me think like this? Muslims have no problem slaughtering christians
    and all non believers all over the world. Or even killing other muslims that dont belong to that sect. Your "freedom fighters" have no problem killing a 100 muslims as long as it takes out 3 westerners. All this while we allow muslims to settle,worship and prosper in the western world. Is this statement i just made
    blastphamy, a stereotype, an insult or just simple criticism?
     
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  4. Grafstein

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    #44
    cool.....:D :)
     
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  5. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #45
    If someone came after you and tried to shoot you on the street, would you then assume everyone that owns a gun in the world is trying to kill you?
    Why would you assume all Muslims are terrorists? Menj is a Muslim do you think he is out killing people between postings? I am getting a big headache, I think I will take a break from this thread for a few days:)
     
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  6. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #46
    Stereotype.

    - MENJ
     
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    #47
    "How would you react if someone makes fun of your dead family during the Holocaust and make cartoons ridiculing them? Will you smile, or will you get angry?"

    Sociopaths assume that people are just like them. That's why they think it's okay to be violent because they're just doing what anyone would do in their situation. Meanwhile here in reality, most people peacfully deal with criticism no matter how harsh. There a huge line between getting angry and getting violent. Most people choose constructive ways to deal with anger. Violent people get violent.

    It's pathetic that you're afraid of someone's violent reaction to being criticized because that's the standard reaction you see in your society.

    It's very impressive apologetic work to excuse violence as a reasonable means to deal with anger. And then to admit that you live in fear yourself of speaking out against those who wong you.

    What else would you like to tell us?
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Gtech's love for the word Islamofacist ( a political epithet used to mock or insult certain political views and their supporters ) comes from his own love of (and desire for) facism. :D
     
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  9. SyedTan

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    #49
    Sorry - just joined and don't have live links enabled. You'll have to copy and paste links in your browser if you want to follow them.

    Initially I thought MENJ was a hot headed college kid. Something like a Talibani Frat Boy. Took his ravings and rantings with a pinch of salt.

    Until he described his "Final Solution" for apostasy, execution.

    http://asylum60.blogspot.com/2006/07/mutant-mullah-ultramenj-steps-over.html

    Bunuh Orang Murtad translates to Kill the Apostate.

    In Malaysia, statements like that are considered seditious and would result in young MENJ being dragged off, arrested without trial (under the Malaysian Internal Security Act) kicking and screaming for mommy while being introduced to the joys of vigorous shower time same sex intimacy by a large hairy inmate.

    After getting a lot of flak, the boy decided to close the blog down and start up another, hoping this statement would be swept under the rug.

    As pointed out, this is his typical modus operandi, make some stupid statement, then hurriedly try to cover it up. Fortunately, extremist watchdog blogger and moderate Muslim Walski, http://asylum60.blogspot.com, took a nice screen shot and preserved the moment for posterity.

    Are he and his ilk just a bunch of testerone laden lads wishing they could be cool Al-Queda operatives or fighting the Great Satan in Afghanistan and the middle east?

    Or could this internet Jihadi bravado escalate into something that could pose a threat to Malaysian and South East Asian regional national security?

    I would not be surprised to see him planning some atrocity in the near future. He probably wouldn't execute an act of terror himself, he's quite a coward when it comes to being accountable for his words/actions.

    He certainly needs to be put on a watch list.
     
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    #50
    Will he be around today? :eek: ;)
     
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    #51
    I had 3 (I think) Malays and one appeared like a pakistani in an internet cafe I'm using frequently, they looked and behaved more like an inteligence unit.:eek: and obviously one was extremely nervous (the one that looked like a pakistani) to me.

    Anyway, menj is a character using all faculties of resources to spread HIS agenda. To read him between the lines reveals his real character.

    He was desperadly seeking to fill these threads with his understanding and policies by burrying all other comments.
     
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  12. Ibn Juferi

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    #52
    Yeah I do have a lot of enemies on the web for my outspokenness, frankness and desire to defend Islam from the verbal assault of its enemies. Hence there will be people who will be making up stories about me and argue via ad hominem in order to discredit me. However their attempts have failed and my sites are visited by various people around the globe wanting to know the true nature of Islam or discover more about the religion.

    If one wants to find dirt on me, I guess they could if they would go to my enemies' sites (go ahead and type in the keyword menj in Google...there are tons of site mentioning me), however it will not do them any good and in the end it just reflects poorly on them.

    So I call this attempt an act of desperation. Pity you.

    - MENJ
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #53
    Reacting in anger to defend the honour of someone you respect highly is not the act of a socio-path, it may be a overboard if you start storming embassies and certainly I do not condone it. But it is not the act of sociopaths, because sociopaths do not react "in anger" to anything, they will just go on a bloody rampage.

    - MENJ
     
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  14. Arnie

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    #55
    If you attack Islam, I will respond and if you ask questions about Islam, I will respond. That is how I play by the rules, buddy. I have no need to further my "agenda" on DP...I am already doing it on my blog!

    - MENJ
     
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    #56
    There are more that know you well

    UltraMENJ - here is the proof. This is not about copyright (in your feeble understanding), but to provide documentary evidence of what you have done, especially since you are notorious for sweeping your tracks clean, deleting portions of your posts in retrospect, and pretending they were never there in the first place.

    Have you not learnt your lesson? Or is it true what they say, that only human beings with a functioning brain have the capacity to learn from their mistakes and not repeat them?
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #57
    You'b better of to say, I have no further need ... though.
    You can be rest assured that you're under observation, national and international.
     
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    #58
    Are you saying that Walski doctored the jpeg screen shot on which you said "Bunuh orang murtad" / "Execute the apostates"?

    Because I certainly remember seeing that post on your site. Before you hurriedly took it off, that is.

    Please enlighten us on what you meant by that, phrase, Bunuh Orang Murtad.

    Perhaps "Execute the apostates" is Subang Jaya vernacular for "Befriend the apostates and nicely persuade them to see the light that is Allah's".

    You've been speaking about islam being a non violent and peaceful religion.

    Tell us how executing someone who doesn't share your belief system or wish to submit him/herself to your definition of god complies to your call for peace and non violence.

    Stop hiding behind, I've got gigabytes of data on my many registered domain websites.

    I'm certainly waiting for the day when I hear the scream of sirens, Cops and the Malaysian Special Branch wailing through Subang Jaya coming for you.

    Initially, I was COMPLETELY AGAINST the call to submit a police report against you.

    However, calls for executions on the net go beyond one's freedom of expression.

    I'm sure the new IGP would agree with that.
     
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  19. Ibn Juferi

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    I see, so it is name callings and insults now? The allegations are false, simply false. Walski is a colourful but a foul-mouthed, misguided one. I am sure you can find all the dirt you want about me, heck, you might even open a whole thread dedicated to me. But usually that is the sign of desperation.

    Fortunately on my comparative religions forum irrational people like you do not exist.

    = MENJ
     
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    #60
    Just so everyone understands. The radical Muslims want to first kill the Jews, then after that they will want to kill EVERYONE else other then their own. This is their plan, like a wise man said "what kind of religion teaches to hate others". The jews, christians, catholics and the peaceful muslims will win this battle and save humanity...

    Matt
     
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