I made some money last weekend using clickbank for the first time, but I feel ripped off. I just signed up to the email lists of several offers and sure enough, the motherfuckers send out emails with their hop link in it (overriding the affiliate's cookie) or link them to a LP that has a payment processor other than clickbank. Realwritingjobs.com for example if linked to directly will not go through clickbank. Stop getting raped & paying for the pleasure (with your time and $$ if you do ppc). There are better networks that don't cheat you.
For someone with 4500 posts here, you sure don't know much about affiliate marketing. If RealWritingJobs is pulling this crap - that's fine, don't promote them. But it's not Clickbank's fault some of its vendors do this - Clickbank isn't cheating anyone.
No need to be condescending, I checked out 4 different offers with supposedly high gravity & they were all doing it. It is clickbank's fault- it's their job to ensure compliance & make sure the affiliates get paid. They work for us, not the other way around!
I own 30+ offers, feel free to try to call me out. I know a good 50-100 6-7 figure earners that are vendors as well - I'd love to see you bust their chops like this too. Will agree for someone with 4500 posts you should be less condescending yourself mate. Other networks and vendors are no different, however I will agree clickbank attracts the worst. Solution = A better filter before you endorse shit, reach out to the vendor if you can, especially if as you say you're about to throw a bunch of resources at it - whatever network you're with if you can't reach the vendor directly it's not a good sign, and even then there's always bad apples. It's like saying 'don't buy manual article directory submissions from DP'ers, they are all scams, there's better out there'. EDIT: And what the fuck are you doing renting out your location tag? Is it just for lulz or are you actually trying to bank a buck that way?? Just curious if people are actually that desperate a) on your behalf b) on theirs for buying it..
Asked a logical question after destroying your assumptions of all clickbank vendors doing this, painting ME along with many associates with an ugly brush in a clickbank section - what did you expect rainbows? And why didn't you address the response only pick on the part that we obviously can see and it makes you look less credible re 'renting location' wtf, I'm sure all the pros do that right? Especially good PPC'ers. If you need money so bad that you rent out your location you probably haven't had that much success with any network yet, and there's no ad hominem in either post, just debate. Like you point out faults of vendors, I'm pointing out faults in your logic, and approach/presentation. Complain about the vendors to clickbank, it's their job yes however if nobody says anything they definitely are not going to optin in to everybody's shit every day to make sure they play nice... and coming hear screaming 'stop promoting clickbank they cheat' isn't doing you or anyone here any good other than to avoid the one vendor you mention.
Talk about small penis syndrome. Who are you trying to impress 1uping each other? This thread isn't about how much money I make and the points I made have no relation to any "affiliate marketing experience". There wasn't much else to your response other than bragging about how many clickbank vendors you know. PS: I said nothing against honest vendors. I'm criticizing clickbank's failure to ensure compliance. If the affiliates leave, neither clickbank nor the vendors make money (no shit) & hey maybe they might finally even clean up their act!
LOL, you are quite the character. #1 - A vendor sending out emails using it's hoplink isn't against any rules that I can find, so stop pretending Clickbank needs to "ensure compliance" #2 - Why would I leave Clickbank? I'm making thousands of dollars a month thanks to them. If you don't like the way a vendor is operating...here's an intelligent idea: DON'T PROMOTE HIS/HER PRODUCTS! You seem to need some cash - if I send you $10 via Paypal will you leave this forum and never come back?
Umm no, Me saying I have 30+ offers and many associates was to illustrate that you can't stereotype the whole network, and an invitation for you to try to bust either me or any or them. EVERY NETWORK HAS IDIOTS, you're sour because you got stung by one. You're the one coming in here going about compliance issues totally the wrong way. The city has a bad citizen, oh noes, don't call for help just avoid the city al together and tell everyone what a rathole it is < Well guess what asshole I live in that city, and if you have issues with it and you call the whole forum on to STOP PROMOTING CLICKBANK, I have a bigger issues because you potentially affect me too. You have 4500 posts, what you say here may be looked as professional advice when it's misguided, misdirected anger at one vendor(or a few). Could care less about 1upping you, care more about preserving the network I hold most of me earnings in, you bashing them and trying to get people here to stay clear of clickbank because they cheat is going to piss people off, especially having 4500 posts and not looking familiar at all in this section... .02. - Read between the lines I'm trying to give you a bone (pick better vendors/products - realize all networks have this problem and don't be butthurt because someone set you straight). EDIT: You finally used real ad hominem, EDIT2: ^ I'll match DLM's $10 - if we can rent your location to say "_________"
dlm, NC....Not to butt-in, but I'll take your 20 bucks to go away forever....Got a couple of bills to pay this week and every bit helps...
LOL @ these ebook pushers turned self proclaimed rich people flaunting their "wealth". You're butthurt because my 4500 post count may be taken more seriously than your idiotic ad hominem replies? Big deal, cry me a river. For the record I've made $100k+ off this very forum, still make $xx,xxx consistently online every month and have an offline staffing & other businesses. Maybe you keyboard warriors make a million/month, maybe you struggle to make $5k. No reason to show your cheap flashy roots & drag others into the mud with you. You can suck up to your favorite network all you want, it doesn't change the fact that their job in exchange for the commissions they get paid is to ensure things are running smoothly for both vendors and affiliates.
Ya right. No one who makes $xx,xxx per month would go through the trouble of selling their location tag for a few bucks a month. What a joke.
Exe, it looks like you had a bad experience with a few clickbank vendors. Now that doesn't mean all the vendors are the same. It merely shows that you just don't know enough about clickbank. There are tens of thousands of products there, and hundreds of real 'gems' that can make you money like crazy. P.S. I personally never promote any MMO niche products.. You need to try other niches (not saying that all MMO's are bad). Use the search function and read on about how to find a good vendor product to promote.
Generally, vendors who have opt-in forms on their sales pages will promote other offers, having their hoplinks and not the actual affiliate's hoplink. I know some vendors really do this. But still for the actual product the affiliate may still be credited, since the vendor is using the original sales page here. I do not prefer promoting any sales page having opt-in form there. And if I use anything like that I make sure that there are other similar products available in the marketplace, in case I have to make a change. I would be happy if clickbank makes a new rule soon : "No opt-in sales page allowed".
I actually think eXe has a point. Today, I saw that "NAVA SHIELD" was being sold on CB. This is an all-out virus and is well documented for being so. All the scammy products out there are paid through Clickbank, which means that if any customer got stung by them at any time, the whole experience will rub off on them and transfer to new CB vendors should they ever look to buy from them. Exe might have high post count but that doesn't mean he's got aff marketing experience. I think he was saying that CB has a shit load of BS products which could easily have been declined.
You've got to be kidding me... If there are vendors overriding affiliate links then steer clear - but making a blanket rule to fix a few bad vendors would be silly & greatly decrease earnings, at best. Why don't you sign up to the vendors email list and see for yourself? If they override, don't promote. If not, it's more $ for everyone~
And I agree about that - and you often see me "blowing the whistle" on the crappiest of the crappy products at CB on this forum. But that doesn't mean there aren't hundreds of even thousands of at least semi-useful products which one can make a lot of money promoting.
Exe ...you suck too much D*** Alll that sperm got stuck and somewhere in ur brain blocking ur ability to reason sensibly...lol..lol.... You made a few points in your thread and there after you go down the toilet attacking reputable members of this forum...jese come on....