Al Qaeda is FAILING - Communications intercepted!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by chulium, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #141
    Is this an exclusively-American paranoia to see conspiracies into something when there is none?

    - MENJ
     
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  2. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #142
    And now you know what exactly I think of you.

    - MENJ
     
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  3. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #143
    No, I do not think that it's a uniquely american trait ;)
     
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  4. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #144
    Resorting to type again I see ;) Putting words into peoples mouths is what you seem to be best at.
     
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  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #145
    This is going to be a long war, and we're barely at the beginning.

    WWII started in in Europe in 1934 when the Germans occupied Austria and in Asia in 1931 when Japan invaded China. WWII didn't end until 1945.

    This war, in comparison, will be much longer than WWII. If we are careful, and just a bit lucky, we may be able to get out of this with fewer than the estimated 50 million casualties of WWII.

    Al Qaeda is having troubles. Troubles are the things that war is made of. We make troubles for them, they make troubles for us.

    Our troubles are that many Westerners hate themselves, their culture, their society, their fellow westerners, and their way of life more than they hate the Islamists.

    This trouble will resolve itself naturally as these westerers get to know the Islamists better. They hate George W. Bush more than they hate Osama bin Laden only because they do not (emotionally) know Osama as well as they know George. Osama would cut his own sons head off for saying the wrong thing. This seems "OK" to western liberals, because Osama is so far away. If this same behavior were to happen in their own neighborhoods, they would be appalled. Yes, this "tolerance" is basically racism, but that is just another weakness of humans. These same liberals who would not approve of a woman of their own race being gang raped have no similar feelings when the woman is Arabic or Pakistani.

    The Islamists have their own troubles. They are pushing an ideology without broad appeal. Women? Not a target market. Gays? Not a target market. Even their beloved journalists of the mainstream media are slowly realizing that the Islamists, if they win, will have them all executed. The Islamist ideology appeals only to people who want to die -- and that is always going to be a small portion of humanity.

    In the long run, the Islamists cannot win and the West cannot lose. In the interim, we in the west can either prolong this war by refusing to fight in it, or was can end this war earlier by choosing to win it.
     
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  6. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #146
    one terrorist group of like less then 20,000 people attack us and the retards around the world, be it islamists or neocons try to turn it into a holywar / culture war, its retarded

    how is Iraq going by the way how many years till democracy and freedom breaks out and changes the middle east?

    yeah everyone should concentrate their lives on hating some 3rd world assholes, wow sounds great
     
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  7. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #147
    I see you want everything right now. Good things take time :)
     
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  8. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #148
    go sign up
     
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  9. chulium

    chulium Well-Known Member

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    #149
    Not old enough :( You'll have to wait longer, ferret ;)
     
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  10. TomN

    TomN Peon

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    #150
    I'm not really sure what to say, because I might be labelled as someone, or something.

    Too many people hate someone or something.

    If someone says something pro-war, you're a dubya lover.

    If someone says something anti-war, they're a terrorist or they don't understand that war is war. War is costly. In war neither side truly wins.

    War costs lives, it may very well be considered an idea, like time or language.

    Something solved by war can be destroyed later on by political, diplomatic or some other minor insult.

    Either way, I think people should just chill out and live their lives... but it won't happen.

    Again.. I'm not sure what to say... but

    I don't approve of war, but if we didn't do anything, the terrorists and the rest of the world would have thought we were push overs after 9/11.
    Did we affect al qaeda? I think so, but there will always be casualties because there are just SO many people involved.

    I don't think everyone should be placing the blame on someone else.

    All I know is that terrorists attacked us, so we had to fight back. What should we have done? I honestly think if we did nothing (i.e. not do stuff in Iraq), we would have gotten attacked again.

    Please flame me, either Republicans, or Democrats.
     
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  11. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #151
    can you please post any link or even a logical theory on how invading Iraq has made us safer?
     
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  12. TomN

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    #152
    If you're sitting somewhere in Iraq, you're not safe.

    have we gotten attacked on U.S. soil since 9/11?
     
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  13. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #153
    Some how... by attacking Iraq.... we're scaring the terrorists (who come from saudi arabia, that we fund) into not attacking us ... im not sure how it makes sense :confused: , you'll have to ask gtech for some snake oil :D
     
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  14. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #154
    Yo, smoke some pot or something. You are making less sense than usual.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #155
    I live a drug-free life minus the occassional social drink. :cool:
     
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  16. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #156
    knock me over with a feather! I figure half the time you are stoned, cuz its the only way the things you type could possibly make sense ;)
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #157
    No fucking way. Oh my God. That's horrible -- that means it's biological. :eek:
     
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  18. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #158
    I'm not sure what the first part of this means, but before 9/11 how many years did it take them to attack, do you know?

    It was 8 years, if they take 8 years to plan an excute an attack, why would you feel safer, when they havn't attack US soil in 5 years?
     
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  19. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #159
    Even Sergei Lebedev, head of the not very friendly Russian Foreign Intelligence Servic, has said "Nearly 70% of al-Qaeda's highest-ranking members have been captured or killed in the international anti-terrorist campaign that has been in progress since 2001."

    We will never win this war just by killing the bad guys, but killing the bad guys is a very important part of this war. It is a neccessary condition for victory, but not a sufficient one.

    For victory to be assured, we must clean up the environments which create these terrorists. We must secularize and/or shut down the Islamist schools which train these children to die from their earliest ages. We must retrain entire cultures not to condone or support terrorist activity. In effect, we must drag Islam kicking and screaming from the 14th to the 21st century.
     
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  20. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    #160
    Americans are a little bit more aware of what´s going on in the world, and try to prevent shit from happening the fan, because we are the ones who have to clean up the mess.
     
    Blogmaster, Oct 6, 2006 IP