United States Heading towards a Depression?

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  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #5221


    Thats odd Mia - if there is anyone the tea party should shun, it is who they were throwing the party for. I guess their roots are actually (closet) liberal not "conservative" at all......the Republicans were for George.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Again, I'm not at all sure where you are going with this. First you make my point and agree with me and provide a fine example. Then you try to back pedal and make it seem like you were implying the opposite? What are you trying to say bud? You're not making any sense today. Or any day for that matter.
     
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    Wait, what? The I thought the Tea Party movement was a modern day representation of the opposition to the British Monarchy and other forms of absolute statism, through their various protests, like the historic dumping of the tea and such. I believe Ron Paul started the modern movement in the eighties; it's sad to see idiots claim Palin and Glenn Beck are the leaders...

    Did someone say the Tea Party supported King George???
     
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  4. Blue Star Ent.

    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

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    Yes, someone did :rolleyes:, but if you ignore them you will not have to read that sort of nonsense anymore.
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #5225
    I'm not really sure what was being said.

    If Breeze was referring to KG ONE (King George I), then its safe to say that he was the opposite of British Monarchy. Hell, he did not even speak English.

    I think what the Tea Party supports is what most intelligent and independent people support which is a government that stays out of our way and our business; one that protects our right to do what we do. Nothing more, nothing less.
     
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    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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  7. Breeze Wood

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    The Rasmussen index just 2 days ago had a reading of -21. From where it has been tracking -13 is actually quite an improvement.

    This time around, with all the peripherals, it really will be the only poll that counts will be the last.....for all of them that are out there.

    It is not like many Republicans are calling Bush up for campaign appearances, I wonder why? ... Will they let him in the convention center in 2012.....not if they think they can win. :)
     
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    #5228
    Breeze, you're making even less sense than usual.

    Ditch the posturing and empty rhetoric.
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Using Breeze's logic is parallel to the logic used in the current White House. In other words, "we only lost 400,000 jobs this month". That's better than the 600,000 we lost last month. They consider less of a less a net gain.

    Strange people.
     
    Mia, Sep 14, 2010 IP
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    #5230

    Its hard to stay positive when you are surrounded by negatives. Cuba kicked 500,000 off the government dole. They are creating new licenses for those who want to crank up their own business. In other words, they are encouraging people to think for themselves in Cuba again.


    Its strange indeed, since not too far away in a country called the United States, more people are getting "on the government dole"...
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Too bad we are going in the opposite direction.
     
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  12. Breeze Wood

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    I guess being in the minority after following Bush is as good an excuse as any for their lack of comprehension and the reason why.

    Anything is an improvement over the past Administration as the elections have born out.

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    Further, irrefutable evidence the economy is strengthening....all hale Nancy and Barack.

    The economy is on an uplift that will not falter in the next two months - the markets are responding accordingly.
     
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    It seems the majority of Americans disagree with you, and would gladly take Bush over Obama. Click your heels three times, and repeat, "there is no place like home, there is no place ...".

    "Hale"? hale? Are you referring to the Spanish word for "pull" or was there some other meaning to your sentence.

    Wonderful news! Can I send you the bills for any investment losses I incur by following your advice? or do you not have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. I think my money is safer betting on the latter.
     
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    Lets not be delusional about Bush and the Republican legacy - a meaningless, deceitful and unfunded trillion dollar war and a precipitous Great Recession of their own making.

    The tax measures were laudable at least for the middle class but for the rest of it, driving the country into the ground, will be my guess why "your majority" run from Bush like the plague and doubtful the appreciation you have for that Administration is shared by anyone with any real knowledge of actual fact anywhere on the planet.


    Really O...nation, can the economy be any worse than where the Republicans left it in two months - those who counted on you already are the losers.
     
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    Are you referring to the war that practically every member of congress voted in favor of? I thought so.




    I never figured you for a Bush supporter... Kudos!

    Your argument isn't with me, its with the facts(as usual).

    http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/08/previewing-ohio.html



    Republicans left the economy in 2006, when the Democrats took over both houses of congress. If you want to analyze the spending on a per president basis, rather than a per congress basis(the people who draft the budget), you'll find Bush spent less in 8 years, "Frivilous" wars included, than Obama did in 18 months. That is one of the myriad of reasons Obama's numbers are lower than what the liberals refer to as "the worst president in history".

    By the way, don't get the wrong impression. I'm not a big Bush fan. He was far too liberal for me.
     
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  16. BRUm

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    How about we mix things up a bit. We're all tired of seeing the same old Republican and Democrat cycle, election after election, with things getting progressively worse every time, right? Vote Ron Paul, or his son Rand Paul, in the next election. If the Democrats can do their stuff and America not completely die, it can't hurt to have a Paul in, with their Austrian economics and isolationist foreign policy. Imagine it, the United States back to their Constitutional roots once again... ahhhh.... :)
     
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  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Ask yourself this one question Breeze. Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?

    The reality is Republicans left things in pretty good shape FOUR YEARS AGO!!!

    We've not changed direction. We've only ramped up the same waste and spending that started 4 years ago when Democrats took control.

    Seems there's only one person here that is "delusion;" that's you kiddo.
     
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    Ron Paul makes a lot of sense on a lot of issues, but his isolationist foreign policy is unrealistic in my opinion. It is also not representative of US history, as we have always had alliances, even as Jefferson said his words about "entangling alliances".

    His son Rand seems to be a bit more grounded in reality, though I doubt any of us would ever agree with any candidate on every issue.

    Speaking of mixing things up, did you see the results of the Delaware Senate Primaries? A strong conservative took down the Republican party establishment candidate in a stunning upset. There is video footage of the winner speaking out on an MTV video 15 years ago against masturbation! The Republican party announced immediately after her victory that they would not fund her campaign in the general election. I wonder how many people are sick of these parties trying to dictate who we
    elect based on what they think is or is not OK in the bedroom.

    I watched Maddow in the hours following the election and she was literally glowing with happiness. She is 100% convinced that nobody with such "perverted" sexual views could be elected to public office. It took 24 hours before Ed Shultz sobered up a bit and thought about it. Nobody gives a crap what this woman thinks is or is not a healthy sexual activity. People are sick of establishment politicians from both parties taking money away from working Americans to feed their own special interests.

    Right about now, I'd say there is almost no person running for office that doesn't have a reasonable shot so long as they are not a career politician or have a (D) next to their name. You are going to see the generic congressional ballot polling break new records in favor of Republicans as election day approaches and everyone gets a chance to vent on the building frustration of the last 7 months.
     
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    I caught a glimpse of a news article reporting a Tea Party member had won in Delaware.

    Maybe the Pauls' foreign policy isn't perfect, but wouldn't you agree that considering all candidates, they have on the whole the best ideas for your country?

    You'd have to be mad not to vote for one of them. Every candidate has something disagreeable, but you're supposed to weigh up these pros and cons when deciding who to vote for.

    At the end of the day they're the most supportive of the constitution, and considering the vast majority of politicians these days couldn't tell you how many amendments there are, I don't know why anyone would vote otherwise.

    You're lucky to have them; I wish so desperately that we had such figures. It would be a crying shame to not let either have a chance. The closest we have is the United Kingdom Independence Party.
     
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    Another example of sound legislation to restore the nations economy and in giving support for the jobs of hard working Americans by the present Administration - so easy for the Republicans to filibuster, accomplish nothing only to delay job creation at the workers expense and blame Democrats for a recession of their own making.....surly the public will understand by November who has saved the nation from a Depression and vote accordingly.
     
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