No I typed all of that. try to find it on the internet, you wont find it anywhere -_- And I have inserted the link which I was referring to... ps: If you don't have anything interesting to say...please keep yourself out of here...
Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Janjaweed are not Muslims. If you believe that shiite, you will believe anything. Want to buy a bridge?
Just a minute after i leaved this thread there was your reply and when i left it was only me browsing the thread.
I'm glad you only argued on that part of my entire post... I'm assuming you couldn't find any counter attack on the rest of it Anyhow, to answer the question...YES! that is true...they may be muslims, they think they preach islam, they worship Allah, they speak Arabic, and all of that. However, Islam clearly states what they do are not the teachings of Islam and the holy Quran. Will, they are mislead, they are not in the right path...The Muslims, the true muslims, do not comply with them nor their methods. These mass killings and hijacking is not what islam teaches... So I'm not saying they are not muslims, there are good muslims, bad muslims, and then again, there are various sects in muslims who differ in their religious views slightly from each other. and why can't I believe 'that shiite' and you can believe anything ill about the Prophet...I mean where is the sense in that? lets both not believe any shit and try to seek the truth
How many times have you read the Koran? Are you an expert interpreter of the Koran? Groups like the Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah have thousands of members who have read the Koran thousands of times and can actually interpret the true essence. I've read the Koran 3 times btw, and I didn't find a lot of "let's promote inter-religious peace" in it.
To answer your questions. I have read the Holy Quran atleast 10 times (no, seriously) And no, I am not an 'expert interpreter' of the Holy Quran, but I can ask you the same, are you? Ofcourse you're not. So we stand equal? But I have read the best interpretations, not one source, more than one. How can you tell with all the certainty that the Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah have read the Quran thousand times and 'ACTUALLY BRING ABOUT THE TRUE ESSENCE' (As you put it) ?!! Have you been a part of any of them? NO! so you can't be too sure...You're just assuming, SO please stop putting your assumptions as MERE FACTS here, alright? If you know something for sure, let it out, else keep your judgements with yourself... Now that you say you have read the Quran 3 times, may I ask you which interpretation have you read? Riyad-us-saliheen or what? Because obviously you can't understand the Quran in its original script. You say you haven't found 'a lot' of peace talking in it, does that mean you DID infact find some peace talking in it? Why don't you share that with the people here then? But where did you find WAR AND TERRORISM in it? Quran, NOWHERE, preaches mass murder or killing of innocent people which the afformentioned groups practice, and you will know that if you have read the Quran 3 times from an authentic source of interpreter.
Actually, it is. Osama bin Laden and I both read the Quran and we both see exactly the same things in it. You read the Quran and refuse to see what it actually says. You are not seeking the truth, you are hiding from it.
We can start in Sura 9: 9:29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low. Osama and I agree on the content and meaning of this verse, but somehow I feel certain you'll have some fantastic explanation about how this is referring only to house plants.
Well here in Pakistan there are already many people are homeless and have no food because of the recent floods therefore nobody is fully happy on this Eid We are going to celebrate Eid simply.
I have already answered that post. Go read up -_- What, now you are deliberately over looking the real truth? Go read up all the verses before it and after it...and then come to me. Oh, in that case I can't help you...
Nobody wants your help kid. We can read the Quran for what it says and we have no need for your fanciful "interpretations." Additionally, if we want careers as suicide bombers, we can figure that out on our own.
Sure... Just make sure you get the correct interpretations Mine MIGHT seem 'fanciful, perhaps because you've been used to the fake interpretations? take a leap of faith...try it for once. I hope you get the answers to all your question. or you know what, try reading the Quran without any pre judgement...with a cool FRESH mind. peace
You must be a very slow learner. Who is your source for Islamic interpretation? The Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah have claimed multiple times to be carrying out the message of Allah. Nobody has been able to disprove them or refute them so far. In fact, the majority of the Islamic world considers them to martyrs. Disagree?
you don't get to decide...I'm not judging you either. not Just one...quite a few. From publications to real Maulanas (the islamic intellectuals) err what? LOL ! if that were true, Terrorists wouldn't be 'MOST WANTED' in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or else where. Why would they be hiding from EVERY COUNTRY if they were the 'heroes' for the Arab countries. get your facts right. ha ha..consider them martyrs? lol yeah right...they're going straight to hell. As a matter of fact, IMO the innocent people who lose their lives might be the real martyrs
3,000 Palestinians Rally to Celebrate Murder of Four Innocent Israeli Citizens <-- these are not the kind of people I'd want as neighbors. But hey, Smith15 says these people don't exist and the Jews are the real martyr's, so I'll just close my mind and not let myself be bothered by any more annoying reality.
WTF? You actually brought Palestine into the picture? Ha Ha wait a minute wait a minute...you are comparing the death of 4 Israeli against the THOUSAND INNOCENT MUSLIMS KILLED IN PALESTINE? lol, you REALLY have to be kidding me here. I won't even insert a link here to prove my point. You're comparing 4 vs thousands in Palestine!? you've really lost it. You're like those IDEAL puppets the new world order people want all the humans to become. and I thought I was debating with a smart opponent worthy of being debated with.
So you're just another asshat celebrating the murder of four innocent Israeli's -- including a pregnant woman. Well, I suppose it's nice that you've finally come out of the closet as yet one more bloodthirsty Islamist savage.
One wrong doesn't legalize another. If Israeli's blow up Palestenians, it doesn't mean adherents of the religion of peace can celebrate the killing of pregnant women just because the victim is a jew and a perpetrator is a subject of the Allah. The world will become a better place when you realize that Islam needs to co-exist to survive, otherwise people will eventually get tired of it and start acting.