Official Filesonic.com Launch - Announcement & Feedback

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by Hish (Filesonic.com), Aug 4, 2010.

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  1. banjowood

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    #2741
    Um.....NO.....FS is being extremely fair. If fraudulent activity is traced to your account, the burden of proof is on you to prove it did not originate with you. Consider yourself lucky, all other file hosts I know of would have closed your account immediately and that would have been the end of the story. Instead, Hish is giving you the opportunity to make your case.
     
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  2. Hish (Filesonic.com)

    Hish (Filesonic.com) Peon

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    #2742
    Thank you Banjowood, your answer is a great one, better than mine :p
     
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    #2743
    allow me some notes regarding FTP.

    - max. of 80 users is probably not enough, since most of the people with filezilla use 2 connections. But I assume this is more load balancing problem.

    - when the same file is to be uploaded for the second time - usually by mistake, or that it is uploaded partially - I get error: 550 Users may not overwrite existing files. Filezilla is set to append to the existing file, but the system will not let her, until I delete file on server manually. this would need some polishing.

    m.
     
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  4. marshall1727

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    #2744
    of course that might be the case when somebody was fooling around with stolen credit cards, but FS cannot be expected to pay those premiums, where they get request for full refund from paypal, or bank. surely, everybody is innocent untill proven guilty, but also bad luck is a bad luck.

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  5. Hish (Filesonic.com)

    Hish (Filesonic.com) Peon

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    #2745
    Do you think these stats are just a coincidence?

    [​IMG]
     
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    #2746
    No offense but give me a break!! There have been no advances in an entire month but rather back peddling and excuses to string people along. The same stupid problems still plague your site. Also you are not the highest paying host. I would never join a non working file host with so many good ones out there. Pretty soon there will be over 200 pages of complaints from your "Affiliates." Then what will be the excuse then. "Please bear with us. We're working on it." Haha yeah right.

    I'm not the one with the tough luck. That belongs to filesonic. Make me laugh dude.
     
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  7. marshall1727

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    #2747
    no, probably not, but it is for you to judge him. :)

    my point was simply that he cannot expect you to pay him for something you did not get paid.


    m.
     
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  8. banjowood

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    #2748
    Hmmm.....not sure if I agree with point two. While you can make that argument from "advertised" rates, actual rates in practice don't always live up to such adverts. (And, no, I am not suggesting FS is pulling a bait and switch, just that factors like ease of use, reputation, file sizes, etc. all effect the amount of sales or downloads you will generate using FS as opposed to another host) Prior to the rate change on July 1st, FS's claim was undisputed. Now, valid arguments can be made to show hosts like Oron, FileServe or Extabit have plans that are at least as lucrative as FS's.

    That said, there is a third reason which Hish failed to mention.....Reliability. Leave the bugs and technical issues of the past month aside. When I speak of reliability I'm speaking right now of the fact that every Friday, problems or not, monies are deposited into my account. How many file hosts have you used who make payments a week or two after you make a request, if that? This reliability is more important to me - and a large contributor to my loyalty - than debating whether or not FS is the best paying host.
     
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  9. banjowood

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    #2749
    You do know that the DMCA folk employ real people, not just bots, right? Once one of those "persons" parks on your site, well.....your links are reported quickly. Sux, but that's the way it is.
     
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    #2750
    Are you sure they hire people? In porn i think it's usually retards who have no life that gets maybe free membership to their favorite model if they keep lurking the interwebs for copyright leaks...

    However how much do you need to file a DMCA? I doubt they even need anything, i could probably go to a porn share site and file a DMCA without even having any evidence that i do indeed have the copyright for the shared content.

    Anyway, sad to see FS still have issues, i moved on. But i wish the best of luck to FS and Hish is a really good guy! hope they can iron the issues out.
     
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  11. banjowood

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    #2751
    Hish, will have to answer this, but I think we are speaking apples and oranges here. I doubt FS deems fraudulent normal requests for refunds. Folks have buyers remorse every day. It is to be expected that a certain percentage of users will attempt to cancel memberships. I expect FS simply deducts those amounts from payments, but does not count such instances against affiliates. When reports of misuse are made by PayPal or credit cards, however, action needs to be taken.
     
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    #2752
    Was wondering if other people outside uk are having problems with downloads too,my stats have dropped and have not be able to download for 6 days ,some people are also saying they cant download but are not from uk,Its getting on to 7 days now and appreciate Hishs commitment to helping and answering but my premium is only half been used,stats are low and constantly having to reply to people who i referred to filesonic about being patient,but patience can only stretch so far and am seeing the consequences of this.It does not make sense that i can only download with a proxy even if FS are on the IWF list which has not been confirmed,yet can download from others hotfile for instance that are on the list from time to time.
     
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    #2753
    How does that work exactly? I mean every file belongs to a different company, creator.. doesnt that mean only the company or the creator of that specific file can only be asked to be removed by the author itself?
     
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    #2754
    i am sure they hire real people bright enough to annoy uploader or site till resignation.
     
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    #2755
    http://community.virginmedia.com/t5...ix-com-FileSonic-com-Urgent/td-p/86599/page/6

    It's not that difficult. First, there are not as many companies/creators as you expect. Most of the company/creator names with which you are familiar happen only to be "children" of larger "parent" companies and rights holders. Second, they act as conglomerates. To use the example of movies, Disney and Sony do not have to go out and put together their own DMCA rat teams. The industry as a whole does this. The rats then collect the links, forward them up the chain and they are plugged into form letters which are then sent to the file hosts. The file hosts then delete your files. Simple. It's not like the hosts actually investigate the claims (nor can you properly expect them to considering that the majority of content hosted is indeed pirated), the files are automatically deleted when a letter is received to protect the file hosts. The DMCA rats know this and count on this to have files removed.
     
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  16. marshall1727

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    #2756
    i am outsite UK and within EU but heard no complaints from downloaders. but server100 was unreachable, it did not worked for me either, and i no other links to check.
     
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    #2757
    Im not with virginmedia,but it seems uk isps use transparent proxies and others around the world dont,also if that was the case every other filehoster seems to work just fine and yet filesonic does not,even though with sharingmatrix i never had download problems and was fine up until last wednesday,so what has changed for uk users only.
     
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    #2758
    Good day, 30 and 31 August, statistics raboatet not true FTP connection just is not working correctly, would pereschet or compensation for selling in the days of unstable service?
     
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    #2759
    This rats will never succeed. It's just pointless. There is too much people in this world posting. Also too much ways you can share without being ever found. And when people notice their stuff is erased - they probably just copy-paste it from a backup site or server and here it is again. A matter of minutes. Pointless.
    Even if they were on a succeeding roll, they would ONLY be shoveling people back to using torrents. And they can't stop peer-to-peer programs as much as they try. You can't stop the whole world from sharing - and sharing just keeps developing...
     
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  20. banjowood

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    #2760
    Of course they won't. I wasn't implying they would. I was only illuminating their actions.

    Besides, the business model of all file hosts - from FS to RS - is based upon the premise that the DMCA rats won't succeed and files will be continually re-posted as you suggest. lol
     
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